Chiefs I think it's gonna be Barkley. - Page 3

**alnorth** · 11-13-2012, 01:31 PM

Barkley is surrounded by much better talent than Geno, and Geno is still out-performing Barkley. If Geno's gone, fine but if he's there, he's the easy pick over Barkley.

ModSocks · 11-13-2012, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

Barkley is surrounded by much better talent than Geno, and Geno is still out-performing Barkley. If Geno's gone, fine but if he's there, he's the easy pick over Barkley.

They both have a pretty damn good WR who bails them out.

It's to early for me to say who is the better QB. I'd rather wait till have all the information and see them perform in their Bowls before i give my definitive answer on who's best.

Right now, i prefer Wilson, but i don't KNOW that he's the better candidate.

Chris Meck · 11-13-2012, 01:32 PM

I'd be okay with any of the three, but I think that for a franchise that hasn't taken a QB in round 1 for 30 years Barkley is the best bet.

I think his mobility is fine. He's not a statue. I think his arm strength is fine, but I really like his accuracy, decision making, and reputation as a high intangibles guy. Little chance of him 'Leafing out'. I think Matt Ryan is a good comparison.

Don't tell me you wouldn't take Matt Ryan.

Chiefnj2 · 11-13-2012, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I'd be okay with any of the three, but I think that for a franchise that hasn't taken a QB in round 1 for 30 years Barkley is the best bet.

I think his mobility is fine. He's not a statue. I think his arm strength is fine, but I really like his accuracy, decision making, and reputation as a high intangibles guy. Little chance of him 'Leafing out'. I think Matt Ryan is a good comparison.

Don't tell me you wouldn't take Matt Ryan.

Why is the Matt Ryan comparison more accurate than comparing him to Sanchez or Leinert?

Sorter · 11-13-2012, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Why is the Matt Ryan comparison more accurate than comparing him to Sanchez or Leinert?

Sanchez was a 1 year starter.

Barkley hasn't had nearly the hype Leinart did but I could understand someone making a comparison there.

ModSocks · 11-13-2012, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

Sanchez was a 1 year starter.

Barkley hasn't had nearly the hype Leinart did but I could understand someone making a comparison there.

And then when you compare Barkley to Leinart, it's pretty clear that one is vastly more mature than the other.

Buckweath · 11-13-2012, 01:30 PM

1. Geno
2. Barkley
3. Wilson

MIAdragon · 11-13-2012, 01:32 PM

suds79 · 11-13-2012, 01:33 PM

This is a weird year for QBs for me. As long as the Chiefs get one of the 3, I'll be happy. But I feel like they're all so different.

Matt Barkley - Safest bet IMO. Seems like your standard pure pocket NFL passer. Average NFL arm. Not bad. But average.
(but has Marqise Lee to throw to)

Tyler Wilson - Tough. I think possibly strongest arm.
(Who's Tyler throwing to?)

Geno Smith - Overall highest upside skill set wise.
(but has Tavon Austin to throw to)

take your pick.

BoneKrusher · 11-13-2012, 01:34 PM

Pocket Presence, ability to read a defense and accuracy is a must for whomever we draft.

if we get that and get rid of Cassel i'm a happy camper.

ModSocks · 11-13-2012, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

Pocket Presence, ability to read a defense and accuracy is a must for whomever we draft.

if we get that and get rid of Cassel i'm a happy camper.

And i see more of that in Barkley and Wilson than i do Smith.

This past saturday i watched Smith miss wide open throws downf ield and nearly give the game away on a would be interception.

The guy needs work.

Once again, i don't see a clear cut winner yet.

BoneKrusher · 11-13-2012, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

And i see more of that in Barkley and Wilson than i do Smith.

This past saturday i watched Smith miss wide open throws downf ield and nearly give the game away on a would be interception.

The guy needs work.

Once again, i don't see a clear cut winner yet.

i havent watched a lot of Barkley/USC but if he has all that i'd be ok with him and i'm anti-USC as far as QB's go.

Titty Meat · 11-13-2012, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

Pocket Presence, ability to read a defense and accuracy is a must for whomever we draft.

if we get that and get rid of Cassel i'm a happy camper.

You just described Barkley the same guy you bashed earlier in the thread you moron and your avatar looks like some Burger King knock off.

BoneKrusher · 11-13-2012, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

You just described Barkley the same guy you bashed earlier in the thread you moron and your avatar looks like some Burger King knock off.

go fist your mama

Chris Meck · 11-13-2012, 01:40 PM

Sanchez started one year and left early. Not much in common other than the system.

Leinert-nothing in common other than the system. Lefty, even less arm strength, not nearly as accurate, not a dedicated student of the game, lack of film study really showed up in the NFL. Intangibles sucked.

Matt Ryan-all the intangibles are there, similar arm, from a similar system. Ryan has shown a similar skillset and mental makeup being successful in the NFL. Ryan is a good picture of upside. I think a pre-shoulder injury Pennington would be the floor. Either is a drastic improvement.

All that being said, I'm not saying I think he's better than Smith or Wilson, just that I think he'll be the pick for a gunshy franchise.

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alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57166239	Barkley is surrounded by much better talent than Geno, and Geno is still out-performing Barkley. If Geno's gone, fine but if he's there, he's the easy pick over Barkley. __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $1804910	I'd be okay with any of the three, but I think that for a franchise that hasn't taken a QB in round 1 for 30 years Barkley is the best bet. I think his mobility is fine. He's not a statue. I think his arm strength is fine, but I really like his accuracy, decision making, and reputation as a high intangibles guy. Little chance of him 'Leafing out'. I think Matt Ryan is a good comparison. Don't tell me you wouldn't take Matt Ryan.
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Buckweath Veteran Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Quebec, Canada Casino cash: $9994975	1. Geno 2. Barkley 3. Wilson
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suds79 MVP Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $10005036	This is a weird year for QBs for me. As long as the Chiefs get one of the 3, I'll be happy. But I feel like they're all so different. Matt Barkley - Safest bet IMO. Seems like your standard pure pocket NFL passer. Average NFL arm. Not bad. But average. (but has Marqise Lee to throw to) Tyler Wilson - Tough. I think possibly strongest arm. (Who's Tyler throwing to?) Geno Smith - Overall highest upside skill set wise. (but has Tavon Austin to throw to) take your pick.
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BoneKrusher That's Right Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Bluefield, Virginia Casino cash: $9976645	Pocket Presence, ability to read a defense and accuracy is a must for whomever we draft. if we get that and get rid of Cassel i'm a happy camper. __________________ "MaHomes/MaAuto"
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11-13-2012, 01:40 PM	#15
Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $1804910	Sanchez started one year and left early. Not much in common other than the system. Leinert-nothing in common other than the system. Lefty, even less arm strength, not nearly as accurate, not a dedicated student of the game, lack of film study really showed up in the NFL. Intangibles sucked. Matt Ryan-all the intangibles are there, similar arm, from a similar system. Ryan has shown a similar skillset and mental makeup being successful in the NFL. Ryan is a good picture of upside. I think a pre-shoulder injury Pennington would be the floor. Either is a drastic improvement. All that being said, I'm not saying I think he's better than Smith or Wilson, just that I think he'll be the pick for a gunshy franchise.
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