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Old 11-13-2012, 12:05 PM  
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I think it's gonna be Barkley.

I think that Smith has more obvious physical ability, but there are real questions about offensive system he's in and his performance against real competition.

Barkley's a good bet to at least be a solid NFL QB. Intangibles are all there, and he's run a pro style offense for 4 years.

I think people are making too big of a deal about his arm being weak; it's not weak, it's just not elite. He's super accurate, though.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:27 PM   #16
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Mobility & scrambling ability are not one in the same.
Agree. Definitely a difference.

But I'd say Tom Brady is just about as immobile as it gets. He still manages.

I just don't think mobility will be an issue for Barkley.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:28 PM   #17
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Smith and Wilson are better under pressure than Barkley.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:28 PM   #18
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Agree. Definitely a difference.

But I'd say Tom Brady is just about as immobile as it gets. He still manages.

I just don't think mobility will be an issue for Barkley.
I dont think so either. All three are young with fresh legs and can move around in the pocket. Though i think Smith really needs to work on his pocket awareness.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:29 PM   #19
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Smith and Wilson are better under pressure than Barkley.
I disagree.

I think production under pressure is Smith's biggest concern.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:29 PM   #20
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:30 PM   #21
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If Geno is there we will draft him.
Don't be so sure. We won't know till the Senior Bowl.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:30 PM   #22
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:31 PM   #23
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Barkley is surrounded by much better talent than Geno, and Geno is still out-performing Barkley. If Geno's gone, fine but if he's there, he's the easy pick over Barkley.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:31 PM   #24
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I disagree.

I think production under pressure is Smith's biggest concern.
Watch the Stanford clips and even Syracuse this year. Barkley's system protects him a lot. Against Syracuse I'd say 70% of his passes were 2 yards down field or less. He makes some boneheaded plays under pressure.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:32 PM   #25
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Don't be so sure. We won't know till the Senior Bowl.
I doubt Smith plays in the senior bowl if he's projected to be a first round pick.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:32 PM   #26
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:32 PM   #27
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I'd be okay with any of the three, but I think that for a franchise that hasn't taken a QB in round 1 for 30 years Barkley is the best bet.

I think his mobility is fine. He's not a statue. I think his arm strength is fine, but I really like his accuracy, decision making, and reputation as a high intangibles guy. Little chance of him 'Leafing out'. I think Matt Ryan is a good comparison.

Don't tell me you wouldn't take Matt Ryan.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:33 PM   #28
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This is a weird year for QBs for me. As long as the Chiefs get one of the 3, I'll be happy. But I feel like they're all so different.

Matt Barkley - Safest bet IMO. Seems like your standard pure pocket NFL passer. Average NFL arm. Not bad. But average.
(but has Marqise Lee to throw to)

Tyler Wilson - Tough. I think possibly strongest arm.
(Who's Tyler throwing to?)

Geno Smith - Overall highest upside skill set wise.
(but has Tavon Austin to throw to)

take your pick.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:33 PM   #29
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Barkley is surrounded by much better talent than Geno, and Geno is still out-performing Barkley. If Geno's gone, fine but if he's there, he's the easy pick over Barkley.
They both have a pretty damn good WR who bails them out.

It's to early for me to say who is the better QB. I'd rather wait till have all the information and see them perform in their Bowls before i give my definitive answer on who's best.

Right now, i prefer Wilson, but i don't KNOW that he's the better candidate.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:33 PM   #30
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I'd be okay with any of the three, but I think that for a franchise that hasn't taken a QB in round 1 for 30 years Barkley is the best bet.

I think his mobility is fine. He's not a statue. I think his arm strength is fine, but I really like his accuracy, decision making, and reputation as a high intangibles guy. Little chance of him 'Leafing out'. I think Matt Ryan is a good comparison.

Don't tell me you wouldn't take Matt Ryan.
Why is the Matt Ryan comparison more accurate than comparing him to Sanchez or Leinert?
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