Chiefs An addition to the Pioli resume - Page 8

Hootie · 12-28-2012, 04:35 PM

not to mention the fact Denver can take risks, or call aggressive defensive plays because you know what? What's the worst thing that happens? They give up a long TD and Peyton Manning gets the ball? Oh no!

We get down by 10+? Yeah. Ha ha. We're done.

Hootie · 12-28-2012, 04:38 PM

we were a blocked FG away from making the playoffs in a shit division with Matt Cassel, Tyler Palko and Kyle Orton at QB with Jackie Battle as our best RB and Sabby Piscatelli starting at safety.

Dreadful 2012. No doubt.

Fortunately, we have easy fixes.

We have to hit one two things to be competitive in 2013. Geno Smith + a competent coaching staff. Those two things alone can get us to 8 wins.

Then we need to hit on some free agents, maybe hit on ONE more draft pick...and maybe see ONE guy like Poe develop into a good starter.

We have FAR less rebuilding to do than the Colts did this year (even though I think that is the luckiest team we've seen in a long time).

Ceej · 12-28-2012, 04:40 PM

I'm also a firm believer that Indianapolis is a pretty lucky team this year.

Luck has been amazing.

I don't see their overall group as a talented core of players.

TEX · 12-28-2012, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CJizzles

I'm also a firm believer that Indianapolis is a pretty lucky team this year.

Luck has been amazing.

I don't see their overall group as a talented core of players.

Here's an obversation regarding the Colts - and this came from Gary Kubiak after the Texans played them - He said that they are deep in that when you take away the obvious stars - that most all the talent is the same level. They play a lot of thier roster each game (He said more than any team in the league) and the dropoff in talent when they sub is minimal. He said that it's a very good way to go through a rebuild in that teams can remain competitive with a GOOD QB at the helm. Interesting...

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-28-2012, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

we were a blocked FG away from making the playoffs in a shit division with Matt Cassel, Tyler Palko and Kyle Orton at QB with Jackie Battle as our best RB and Sabby Piscatelli starting at safety.

Dreadful 2012. No doubt.

Fortunately, we have easy fixes.

We have to hit one two things to be competitive in 2013. Geno Smith + a competent coaching staff. Those two things alone can get us to 8 wins.

Then we need to hit on some free agents, maybe hit on ONE more draft pick...and maybe see ONE guy like Poe develop into a good starter.

We have FAR less rebuilding to do than the Colts did this year (even though I think that is the luckiest team we've seen in a long time).

We have easy fixes, yet didn't fix anything in FOUR YEARS.

ChiefsCountry · 12-28-2012, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

We have easy fixes, yet didn't fix anything in FOUR YEARS.

That is on the Fat **** in the GM office.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-28-2012, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

That is on the Fat **** in the GM office.

And it will be on the next guy as well.

As has been pointed out several times, the core of this team hasn't changed in four years - it's just gotten older.

We have all these easy fixes, yet the Executive of the Decade wasn't able to fix anything in four years.

A QB is part of the problem, but far from the entire problem.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-28-2012, 05:17 PM

I'm heading out to dinner, check in later.

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-28-2012, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And it will be on the next guy as well.

As has been pointed out several times, the core of this team hasn't changed in four years - it's just gotten older.

We have all these easy fixes, yet the Executive of the Decade wasn't able to fix anything in four years.

A QB is part of the problem, but far from the entire problem.

Preaching to the choir.

-King- · 12-28-2012, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And it will be on the next guy as well.

As has been pointed out several times, the core of this team hasn't changed in four years - it's just gotten older.

We have all these easy fixes, yet the Executive of the Decade wasn't able to fix anything in four years.

A QB is part of the problem, but far from the entire problem.

QB is at least 75% of the problem.

You guys preached for years about the difference a franchise QB could make and now that we're on the verge of getting one, you say that a QB won't make that big of a difference.

**RealSNR** · 12-28-2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And it will be on the next guy as well.

As has been pointed out several times, the core of this team hasn't changed in four years - it's just gotten older.

We have all these easy fixes, yet the Executive of the Decade wasn't able to fix anything in four years.

A QB is part of the problem, but far from the entire problem.

It's more than 20% of the problem. Or 30%. Or 50%.

It's around 70% of the problem I would say if you don't have a franchise QB in this era of the NFL. That would not have been the case in the 90s. It's the case now, however.

**SAUTO** · 12-28-2012, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

We have easy fixes, yet didn't fix anything in FOUR YEARS.

True on both counts.

Except the o line as long as we keep Albert.

It's all on the fail that is Pioli
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chiefzilla1501 · 12-28-2012, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

True on both counts.

Except the o line as long as we keep Albert.

It's all on the fail that is Pioli
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To Pioli's credit, he took a roster full of major liabilities at starting positions to a roster that's rounded out with "good enough" guys. He did a pretty good job of building a team around supporting cast members. So he deserves credit for that.

The problem is that good GMs build around playmakers at core positions and Pioli decided to lay up every chance he got. That's ridiculous for a GM paid the way he is to not do that for 4 years. So the good news is, the foundation is set -- good support players, great cap space. We just need a GM now who can put together a few great drafts and make some quality free agency moves. Not as far off as people think. We're in a much better situation than a lot of new GMs walk into.

Hootie · 12-28-2012, 04:42 PM

Luck has something like 7 game winning drives this year...

So yeah, that's amazing. Shows what kind of gamer he is.

BUT FLIP SIDE IT...they could very easily be 3-12. That team, IMO, takes a big step backwards next year...I think Luck puts it all together in year 3 though.

Hammock Parties · 12-28-2012, 05:12 PM

I disagree that we didn't fix anything.

The offensive line has been massively upgraded.

Winston, Asamoah and Hudson are all good players.

12-28-2012, 04:35 PM	#1
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	not to mention the fact Denver can take risks, or call aggressive defensive plays because you know what? What's the worst thing that happens? They give up a long TD and Peyton Manning gets the ball? Oh no! We get down by 10+? Yeah. Ha ha. We're done.
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12-28-2012, 04:38 PM	#2
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	we were a blocked FG away from making the playoffs in a shit division with Matt Cassel, Tyler Palko and Kyle Orton at QB with Jackie Battle as our best RB and Sabby Piscatelli starting at safety. Dreadful 2012. No doubt. Fortunately, we have easy fixes. We have to hit one two things to be competitive in 2013. Geno Smith + a competent coaching staff. Those two things alone can get us to 8 wins. Then we need to hit on some free agents, maybe hit on ONE more draft pick...and maybe see ONE guy like Poe develop into a good starter. We have FAR less rebuilding to do than the Colts did this year (even though I think that is the luckiest team we've seen in a long time).
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Luck has something like 7 game winning drives this year... So yeah, that's amazing. Shows what kind of gamer he is. BUT FLIP SIDE IT...they could very easily be 3-12. That team, IMO, takes a big step backwards next year...I think Luck puts it all together in year 3 though.
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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4380478	I disagree that we didn't fix anything. The offensive line has been massively upgraded. Winston, Asamoah and Hudson are all good players. __________________ Chiefs game films
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