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Old 02-17-2015, 08:12 PM  
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The Franchise Tag: Ability to "steal" players?

I still follow Nick Wright, former 610 Sports talking head who has now moved to the Houston market.

He just posted the following series of tweets, advocating that the Texans (or any team, really) "steal" Dez Bryant from the Cowboys, should he get the franchise tag. He indicates the cost is 2-First Round picks:
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My questions to you all:

- Is this a thing that has been done?
- What's the policy?
- Are we in danger of losing Houston should he receive the tag?
- Would you pull the trigger on Dez, or another player, for 2-firsts?
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Old 02-17-2015, 08:51 PM   #16
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For a team like Houston? No.

For a team like New England....sure....but they'll never do it.
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Old 02-17-2015, 08:53 PM   #17
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Seems like the chiefs got chester mcglockton by making him an ofer and oakland declined to match it. I don't remember what they had to give.
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Old 02-17-2015, 08:54 PM   #18
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Okay, lets say a team DID pull the trigger - they pay 2 firsts, and then pay the guy....

...for the one, franchise-year deal? And then he's a FA again?
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Old 02-17-2015, 08:58 PM   #19
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For a team like Houston? No.

For a team like New England....sure....but they'll never do it.
Why wouldn't they when they have a HOFer in the twilight of his career and a gamebreaker like Dez is on the table? Hell Hoodie is probably going to follow Brady out the door anyway.
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Old 02-17-2015, 08:58 PM   #20
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Okay, lets say a team DID pull the trigger - they pay 2 firsts, and then pay the guy....

...for the one, franchise-year deal? And then he's a FA again?
Because they would be ready to give him a new deal before the season.
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Old 02-17-2015, 08:59 PM   #21
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Why wouldn't they when they have a HOFer in the twilight of his career and a gamebreaker like Dez is on the table? Hell Hoodie is probably going to follow Brady out the door anyway.
Can't see Bryant co-existing with Bryant. He did with Moss but I think Bryant is different.
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Old 02-17-2015, 09:01 PM   #22
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Okay, lets say a team DID pull the trigger - they pay 2 firsts, and then pay the guy....

...for the one, franchise-year deal? And then he's a FA again?
No. You have to negotiate the long term deal. then you give up the picks.
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Old 02-17-2015, 09:04 PM   #23
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Can't see Bryant co-existing with Bryant. He did with Moss but I think Bryant is different.
He can't get along with himself?

Obviously you meant Brady, and I suppose the character issues don't fit with the Patriot Way. Which is good because I'd probably swear off football if it happened.
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That would make me swear off football too.
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Old 02-17-2015, 09:08 PM   #26
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Would be tough considering they're gonna have to pay luck soon though.
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Old 02-17-2015, 09:14 PM   #28
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Seems like the chiefs got chester mcglockton by making him an ofer and oakland declined to match it. I don't remember what they had to give.
McGlockton was a step below the franchise tag. We had to give up a second round pick if I remember right.
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Would be tough considering they're gonna have to pay luck soon though.
It's not like they'd be the first team to pay two superstars.

Christ, we had one of the worst passing offenses in the league and have the 10th highest paid QB and 4th highest paid WR.

They don't have a single player making more than $9M a season, and their four highest paid players are locked up until 2017, 2018 and 2019.
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Old 02-17-2015, 09:18 PM   #30
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And they have nearly $40M in cap space and Cory Redding is their only quality FA this season. They have a lot of guys locked up for the long term.
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