I still follow Nick Wright, former 610 Sports talking head who has now moved to the Houston market.
He just posted the following series of tweets, advocating that the Texans (or any team, really) "steal" Dez Bryant from the Cowboys, should he get the franchise tag. He indicates the cost is 2-First Round picks:
Spoiler!
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>If the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cowboys?src=hash">#Cowboys</a> end up franchising Dez Bryant, I'd seriously consider forking over the 2 1st round picks it would take to steal him away...</p>— nick wright (@getnickwright) <a href="https://twitter.com/getnickwright/status/567865803267117057">February 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>... Especially if I'm a team like the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Patriots?src=hash">#Patriots</a> drafting at the tail end of the 1st round anyways.</p>— nick wright (@getnickwright) <a href="https://twitter.com/getnickwright/status/567865976034701312">February 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>... As long as I'm drafting mid-1st round or later, and if I think I'll be good next year, I'd definitely consider stealing Dez for 2 1sts.</p>— nick wright (@getnickwright) <a href="https://twitter.com/getnickwright/status/567866174622404610">February 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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My questions to you all:
- Is this a thing that has been done?
- What's the policy?
- Are we in danger of losing Houston should he receive the tag?
- Would you pull the trigger on Dez, or another player, for 2-firsts?
Mr. Flopnuts
02-17-2015 08:15 PM
You have to pay the guy AND surrender the 2 1st rounders, which is why it never happens.
Bowser
02-17-2015 08:15 PM
Just use the exclusive rights franchise tag.
In58men
02-17-2015 08:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowser
(Post 11332795)
Just use the exclusive rights franchise tag.
/thread
In58men
02-17-2015 08:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts
(Post 11332794)
You have to pay the guy AND surrender the 2 1st rounders, which is why it never happens.
Also
/thread
Discuss Thrower
02-17-2015 08:23 PM
Thing I wonder is the wiki article says the Cowboys, in this situation are "entitled" to two 1sts. Not guaranteed, but entitled.
.. Doesn't that allow a team like Dallas flexibility in preventing a guy like Dez from going to a rival by tagging him but allowing a team like Houston to acquire him for less than two firsts?
Hypothetically, of course.
Mr. Flopnuts
02-17-2015 08:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower
(Post 11332821)
Thing I wonder is the wiki article says the Cowboys, in this situation are "entitled" to two 1sts. Not guaranteed, but entitled.
.. Doesn't that allow a team like Dallas flexibility in preventing a guy like Dez from going to a rival by tagging him but allowing a team like Houston to acquire him for less than two firsts?
Hypothetically, of course.
Sure. But, they're guaranteed the 2 1sts if a team swoops in and signs him.
Hammock Parties
02-17-2015 08:30 PM
If we've learned anything, it's that overpaying for a WR when you don't have a QB is not a good idea.
Discuss Thrower
02-17-2015 08:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Numbah One
(Post 11332832)
If we've learned anything, it's that overpaying for a WR when you don't have a QB is not a good idea.
Houston does mirror KC a lot of ways..
The Franchise
02-17-2015 08:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts
(Post 11332794)
You have to pay the guy AND surrender the 2 1st rounders, which is why it never happens.
Except you'd also be eliminating those 2 1st round fully guaranteed contracts.
Mr. Flopnuts
02-17-2015 08:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant
(Post 11332876)
Except you'd also be eliminating those 2 1st round fully guaranteed contracts.
That's a good point.
Deberg_1990
02-17-2015 08:45 PM
Wright is right. Bryant is absolutely worth giving up 2 First rounders for a team drafting in the back half. He's only 26.
O.city
02-17-2015 08:48 PM
Wouldn't trade first rounders for any position that isn't a qb ever
Bugeater
02-17-2015 08:48 PM
Watch New England snatch him...
Deberg_1990
02-17-2015 08:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city
(Post 11332895)
Wouldn't trade first rounders for any position that isn't a qb ever
Not even a young proven commodity over two potential unknowns?
The Franchise Tag: Ability to "steal" players?
(https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=290685)