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Old 01-17-2017, 09:12 AM  
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rabblerouser : I also think that the Chiefs can still win with Alex Smith
But not with Andy Reid.

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I don't see any reason to rush this. I don't think Alex gives us a great chance at a super bowl. But he gives as an outside chance of one. I would only give him 1-2 years anyway and I'm guessing he does too, judging by his wife's comments. Groom a QB on the bench. There's no reason to rush it but there is a critical urgency to find a clear QBOTF. Not just giving a young QB a shot... finding a guy we believe can start for us for 10 years.
over the past few days I've realized that Alex Smith isn't the problem. it's Andy Reid. I think the Chiefs can definitely win with Alex Smith, win a Super Bowl even.

We'd need a coach like a Gruden/Payton/Harbaugh/Carroll/Garrett/McCarthy type to get the most of Smith and our talented but underachieving offense.
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Old 01-17-2017, 10:52 PM   #106
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You think that run defense would have held up for 2 more games?

Child, please.

Defense wins championships. The coaching staff, the lineman, the receivers, the run defense all failed way harder than our QB did that game. Alex Smith is a solid game managing QB who can take us all the way. Players getting paid up the wazoo (Houston, Maclin, Charles, Tamba) and aren't giving us jack ****.
What's your proof?

He's had 4 years and we haven't even come close with Alex at the helm.
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Old 01-17-2017, 10:53 PM   #107
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Thanks for the effort in your replies. my opinion -> hasn't budged. Thanks for playing.

We look forward to you coming to the games with our AFC West champion QB at the helm in 2017.

Matt Cassel?
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Old 01-17-2017, 10:55 PM   #108
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Bet you can't name 10 teams that didn't win a SB without a top ten defense
Nice. The classic, challenge a challenge to try and win an argument. Tiger, from what I've read from you, I expect more.
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Old 01-17-2017, 10:58 PM   #109
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Please, with all due respect, provide a link. I can't find anything that shows the Chiefs having the 2nd overall dropped passes. When looking at the WRs receptions, or TE receptions, or OL receptions. Or all three combined. Please, if I am wrong, I will stop drinking the Kool-Hate of Smith. In the meantime, stop drinking the Cum-aid of this over rated time to move on because he is holding down our offense, QB!
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Old 01-17-2017, 10:59 PM   #110
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Even Tiger admits we need an elite defense to win with Alex.

At least he's not totally crazy.
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Old 01-17-2017, 11:00 PM   #111
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See Tigger what you fail to realize is we've been down this route: we have had elite defenses in KC led by shitty quarterbacks.

We lost and lost early in the playoffs every single time, including with Alex.
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Old 01-17-2017, 11:01 PM   #112
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Thanks for the effort in your replies. my opinion -> hasn't budged. Thanks for playing.

We look forward to you coming to the games with our AFC West champion QB at the helm in 2017.
Oh wow!! Does that mean you have some insight tiger? Are we finally getting a new QB? Please tell. It will stay among friends.... No, stay among fans.
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Old 01-17-2017, 11:05 PM   #113
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Start with the three Cleveland Browns teams that got to the AFC Championship game with Bernie Kosar.

Smartest guy and worst athlete on the field.

Sort of like Manning last year.
Those teams prove my point. Elite D cant save a meh QB except in RARE occasions.

Or a fumble in the red zone but ya know.
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Old 01-17-2017, 11:06 PM   #114
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So why isn't the offense scoring as much as we would like even after 4 years if Reid is trying to maximize Smith's strengths?
Lack of overall talent on the part of the QB. If you're given a lump of mule shit to work with, there aren't many options for a meaningful end result.

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Run defense. You know, a guy named Leveon Bell just ran for 170 yards.
Not the defenses job to score points, and not one touchdown achieved by said running back Bell.

Know this:

We of the Chiefs Nation killed Matt Cassel, and we can kill Alex too.

Easily.

Facts, not fiction.
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Old 01-17-2017, 11:15 PM   #115
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Lack of overall talent on the part of the QB. If you're given a lump of mule shit to work with, there aren't many options for a meaningful end result.
And after 4 years Reid hasn't realized this?
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Old 01-17-2017, 11:19 PM   #116
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SORRY, COULDNT POST YOUR STATS LINK. I'M A NOOB
Yea, I read those links before you sent them. Last time I checked in kindergarten, 2 did not equal 4. And if you read through those stats, it really doesn't say much. When taking into consideration the fact that Smith shuts down like my 5 year old when pressure is applied shows me his is not even a mediocre QB. It proves to me he becomes unsure of his ability which affects/effects (I can never tell the diff half the time) his pass. So a wobbly ass pass is counted as a drop in the stats as long as it makes it to the hands. When someone is receiving it in motion with one or two man coverage makes for a hard catch. Get my drift. My point is when you watch how Smith reacts under pressure and there are more than two open receivers. That shows me his true statistics. 5ux!
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Run defense. You know, a guy named Leveon Bell just ran for 170 yards.
They didn't score a touchdown. I'd give up 400 yards rushing to Bell if we kept them out of the end zone. You look dumb right now.
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Old 01-18-2017, 12:03 AM   #119
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Run defense. You know, a guy named Leveon Bell just ran for 170 yards.

Fantasy football stats.
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They didn't score a touchdown. I'd give up 400 yards rushing to Bell if we kept them out of the end zone. You look dumb right now.
if you gve up that much more.. the time of posession with be terrible.. not too mention the offense would have no time to gel.
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