Music Aerosmith’s Steven Tyler just released his first country single - Page 8

Deberg_1990 · 07-06-2015, 09:21 PM

Lovely. enjoy!

Abba-Dabba · 07-08-2015, 02:19 PM

My my, Janice Dickinson has really gone downhill.

Contrarian · 07-08-2015, 02:44 PM

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Excellent move by a very talented man. Rock is dead, Country has a much bigger and loyal audience, especially in the younger demographic.

Rock isn't dead man!

lawrenceRaider · 07-08-2015, 02:45 PM

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Why do you think that the product is so poor? Could it be lack of funding, lack of development? How about the lack of audio engineering and producing experts, all who have left for other fields, whether it's Film/TV mixing and production or Nashville?

Nah, it can't be that!

Explain how illegal downloading isn't causing the same problem for Country? Are hicks just not able to turn on a computer?

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-08-2015, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

Explain how illegal downloading isn't causing the same problem for Country? Are hicks just not able to turn on a computer?

See above

Rasputin · 07-08-2015, 03:16 PM

Steven Tyler with a pencil drawn on mustache.

lawrenceRaider · 07-08-2015, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

See above

In other words, you are full of it as your original explanation holds no water. If illegal downloads killed rock, it would have done the same to Country at the same time.

What you meant to say is that poor decisions by record labels drove off their producing talent leading to the crap we see today from rock labels.

All the good rock acts now are free from the major labels and release their own albums.

Chromatic · 07-08-2015, 03:35 PM

Rock isn't dead, it's just been diluted into hundreds of other subgenres thanks to the internet.

The spirit of rock is still doing just fine, it's just more underground nowadays. If you know where to look, all you can handle is right there for you.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-08-2015, 03:36 PM

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In other words, you are full of it as your original explanation holds no water. If illegal downloads killed rock, it would have done the same to Country at the same time.

Nice. Another ****ing stupid Raider fan in the world.

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What you meant to say is that poor decisions by record labels drove off their producing talent leading to the crap we see today from rock labels.

No, not in the least.

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

All the good rock acts now are free from the major labels and release their own albums.

They're "free" of marketing and promotions, "free" of having any type recording budget, "free" of working with experienced and successful engineers and producers and "free" of that pesky thing we call revenues or earning a living.

Sounds pretty sweet to me.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-08-2015, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromatic

Rock isn't dead, it's just been diluted into hundreds of other subgenres thanks to the internet.

None of those bands are earning any money and due to the current climate of streaming and our outdated compulsory licensing laws, there won't be any future revenues, either.

Mastodon isn't rock, it's metal and they've been signed for more than a decade and thus aren't part of this discussion.

Chromatic · 07-08-2015, 03:42 PM

Another thing to consider is that music itself has been devalued quite a bit during the last 20 years. Buying a record, running home, throwing it on and listening to it while you go through the booklet on cd or vinyl is a thing of the past for all but the most dedicated listeners.

Cell phones, apps, ps4, xbone, facebook, twitter, etc. There's a ton more entertainment venues for people than there was in the past. The casual listener that would have been reading that lyric booklet 20 years ago is now doing other things.

Music is more of a background thing for a lot of casual listeners nowadays.

Chromatic · 07-08-2015, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

None of those bands are earning any money and due to the current climate of streaming and our outdated compulsory licensing laws, there won't be any future revenues, either.

Mastodon isn't rock, it's metal and they've been signed for more than a decade and thus aren't part of this discussion.

I was speaking more to the fact of people going around believing rock is dead because there isn't a Zeppelin or Pink Floyd around. The type of a HUGE guitar band is the way of the dodo.

Also the tracks I posted are mostly rock. Heavy rock but still accessible. They started as a sludge metal band with prog tendencies band but have been moving away from that into more prog rock in recent years.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-08-2015, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromatic

Another thing to consider is that music itself has been devalued quite a bit during the last 20 years.

Don't I know it. There are some days when I say "WTF am I even doing this?".

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-08-2015, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromatic

I was speaking more to the fact of people going around believing rock is dead because there isn't a Zeppelin or Pink Floyd around. The type of a HUGE guitar band is the way of the dodo.

Also the tracks I posted are mostly rock. Heavy rock but still accessible. They started as a sludge metal band with prog tendencies band but have been moving away from that into more prog rock in recent years.

But that's what I mean: Rock is Dead.

There aren't 30-50 new bands out there selling out arenas and stadiums. Band aren't selling millions upon millions of units, they're lucky to sell 50,000 units. In 2013, less 1% of all music released sold more than 5,000 units. 5,000. Even at $9.99 a download, that's less than $50k and that's before production costs, instruments, amps, etc.

As someone mentioned earlier, the marketplace is too fractured. If rock music was still controlled by record companies and publishers, many of today's bands would be more streamlined and focused, which most listeners appreciate because of the various media forms and lifestyles of Millennials.

Brock · 07-08-2015, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

Explain how illegal downloading isn't causing the same problem for Country? Are hicks just not able to turn on a computer?

I would guess it's because country music, new country music, gets heavy airplay on the radio, while new rock music doesn't. Maybe it's just a Kansas thing, but we have 18 country stations that play new music and maybe 1 or 2 rock stations that interrupt the pink zeppelin playlist with new songs once in a while.

And god, does this new version of country music suck.

KCUnited · 07-08-2015, 04:17 PM

I like the post mega label rock genre. I mean, how many bands do you like where you say "their first two albums ruled"? aka, before they signed a big deal. There's more of that now. Groups playing just to play then moving on. As a fan, I'm good with that, but understand the burst left a lot of good industry people and muscians on the outs. My current guilty please is some lo-fi shit out of South America who I don't need to hear 6 albums spanning a decade from. Millennials (which I'm not) are better equipped for that due their Internet savvyness and low attention span. The game evolved.

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