Jones vs. 1st Rounder + $20m

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by bigdaddychieffan

The fact that we are gonna have to pay Mahomes means we can’t keep Jones. We went all in to win it this year. Time to retool and build a dynasty. That has to come from making good financial decisions since we are gonna have to pay that money for the qb that we haven’t had to thus far.

Categorically ****ing wrong.

[bigdaddychieffan]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Categorically ****ing wrong.

Dont agree at all. If we pay jones this offseason it means we won’t be extending Mahomes right now. Probably wait to do that for next year and he will undoubtedly cost more then. Then it’s now you have to cut other people who may not offer any return due to cap casualties. I would rather not get in a bind paying 1/5 team cap on 2 dl players and another 5th on our qb. We got to field a complete team.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by bigdaddychieffan

The fact that we are gonna have to pay Mahomes means we can’t keep Jones. We went all in to win it this year. Time to retool and build a dynasty. That has to come from making good financial decisions since we are gonna have to pay that money for the qb that we haven’t had to thus far.

Paying Chris Jones is a good decision.

The only reasons you don’t pay him:

If you feel his knee won’t hold up
If you feel like won’t take the responsibility that comes with the contract seriously.
If you feel he might get into off the field trouble during the contract
If you feel he has reached his ceiling

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Paying Chris Jones is a good decision.

The only reasons you don’t pay him:

If you feel his knee won’t hold up
If you feel like won’t take the responsibility that comes with the contract seriously.
If you feel he might get into off the field trouble during the contract
If you feel he has reached his ceiling

Or if you get blown away by an offer.

If someone does something stupid like offering 2 1sts and a 2nd, you take it regardless of how you feel about him.

[Hoover]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Paying Chris Jones is a good decision.

The only reasons you don’t pay him:

If you feel his knee won’t hold up
If you feel like won’t take the responsibility that comes with the contract seriously.
If you feel he might get into off the field trouble during the contract
If you feel he has reached his ceiling

All fair, but I think it's more complicated than that.

If you pay Jones you also have to be convinced you can rebuild the entire offensive live without free agency, that you can use CB rentals and late round draft picks at CB, and that Kelce is just a machine who keeps producing.

The reason I'd sign Jones is because I think the cap is going to jump up. The reason I would trade him is because the team has some critical areas of need that I'm just not confident in being able to address in the draft alone.

[WarChiefs89]

So in this debate many of you are saying you'd rather have option #1 versus option #2...

Option 1 = Chris Jones on a new 5-yr contract with ~20 mil AAV

Option 2 =

- Choose 1 of these $12-$14 mil guys... Brandon Scherff (G), Byron Jones (CB), Markus Golden (OLB), Chris Harris (CB), Jamie Collins (OLB), Matt Skura (C), Cory Littleton (LB)

PLUS

- Choose 1 of these $4-6 mil guys... Michael Pierce (DT), Jordan Phillips (DT), Patrick Onwuasor (ILB)

PLUS

- Choose 1 (1st round pick)... Grant Delpit (S), Patrick Queen (LB), Henry Ruggs (WR), Kenneth Murray (LB), Kristian Fulton (CB), Xavier McKinney (S)

PLUS

- 3rd Round Pick for a rotational RB, slot WR, 3rd safety, depth CB etc.

I'm finding it hard to say Chris Jones. And he's admittedly awesome, but we can sign a legit proven player, a decent vet player, a 1st / 3rd round pick in a really nice draft class. This one isn't that hard to me.

[Fat Elvis]

I will leave this right here.....

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Former No. 2 draft pick facing federal drug charge after arrest at border: report

Offensive line, no less.
























But yeah, Chris Jones is too much of a risk.

[bigdaddychieffan]

I’m paying the money for Mahomes no matter any compensation. We just need to spend the money wisely elsewhere. Can’t have everything.

[Hoover]

Originally Posted by bigdaddychieffan

I’m paying the money for Mahomes no matter any compensation. We just need to spend the money wisely elsewhere. Can’t have everything.

And everyone here and around the globe agree...

[JakeF]

Should be more than just a 1st rounder.

Didn't we already spend Jones money on Clark?

[The Franchise]

1. We don’t know how much Jones is asking for.
2. Byron Jones is not getting $12-14 million a season. Try more. And I’m not paying a ****ing OG that much money.
3. We have no idea what other teams are going to offer for Jones.

[Halfcan]

Option 1 - Awesome, Big Dick Jones.

Option 2 - Overpaid, Free Agent Broke Dicks and some Draft Picks that have a huge chance to be a bust.


This one isn't that hard for me.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Option 1 - Awesome, Big Dick Jones.

Option 2 - Overpaid, Free Agent Broke Dicks and some Draft Picks that have a huge chance to be a bust.


This one isn't that hard for me.

Yep. He's a difference maker. Privides one hell of a pass rush up the middle and can play anywhere on the DL. There's maybe one or two other guys in the NFL besides Jones that can do what he does. This kind of player is in high demand on any defense and we have him. He can play all downs and you can do different things with him based on the situation. Other teams look at him and hope to get a similar type of player that can do some of what he can do. He's an exceptional player even when compared to the very best players in the league. I keep this player on my team.

[Easy 6]

The Sacksquatch voters are winning handily

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

The Sacksquatch voters are winning handily

Errybody wanted to re-up HoboSpirit too.