Fans of other teams justification thread

[Rainbarrel]

The fans of teams justifying their teams and QBs is getting beyond silly. The Bills fans, for one example, are really reaching deep in the denial bag. Please post what you find.

Here is a sample:


When you strip it all down and realy look at it, take away the team name, the supporting cast, the coaches, team mates, you're not left with one of the best quarterbacks in the league, you're left with the best quarterback in the league. 17 is the most polarizing player in the modern NFL era. If 17 is dropped into any NFL roster, 17 immediately makes that team more of a contender than any quarterback in the league would. There's a reason 17 is the most played player in Madden, 17 is a living breathing cheat code.
#QB1
#GoBills

[Bearcat]

17 is the most polarizing player in the modern NFL era.

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[Pablo]

17 is white Cam Newton, same brains and everything.

[Kelly 2 Allen]

Originally Posted by Pablo

17 is white Cam Newton, same brains and everything.

Cam newton never had back to back winning seasons
Cam newton was an rpo QB who's game was dependent on him running.
Cam newton had two years in his entire career with a QB rating over 90


Josh Allen runs the Earnhardt -perkins offense the same as Brady. Less than 7 % of Allen's runs are designed. In fact most of the time Allen like Mahomes scrambles around to pass

Josh Allens game is a sandlot style that is dependent on his passing. Similar to Elway, Favre, Young or Rodger " the dodger" Staubach

Josh Allen has the greatest arm talent, arm strength and probably second quickest release behind Marino

Josh Allen has outplayed mahomes three straight times
Josh Allen has been an all pro
Josh Allen has the fifth highest rated playoff QB rating in NFL history ( min 150 attempts)

Josh Allen is the only QB in NFL history with a perfect playoff game 7 possessions 7 tds no turnovers no punts

Josh Allen has a lower turnover % than " joe cool"
Joe burrow has the same amount of int as Allen in the playoffs despite being in one less game

Josh Allen is the only QB in NFL history with back to back years of 4000 + passing yards, 700 rushing yards and 30 plus TD passes. Nobody has ever done it yet Allen did it twice back to back lol

Allens oline was ranked 24th last year and his wrs led the NFL in drop % and were bottom of the league in yac

Buffalos wr group was ravaged with injuries last year

Before Allens elbow injury he outplayed mahomes yet again and had a QB rating of 109
After partially tearing his elbow his QB rating was 94 in the second half of the year which is still pretty remarkable



I personally think mahomes is the greatest QB I've ever seen in I believe he is going to be a babe Ruth like legend.

But can we please live in reality

Allen has broken Dan Marino's TD record for his first five years and tied Manning in TD ( passes) for his first five years. Mahomes probably tops him because he didn't play as a rookie but it's still incredible...

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Kelly 2 Allen

Cam newton never had back to back winning seasons
Cam newton was an rpo QB who's game was dependent on him running.
Cam newton had two years in his entire career with a QB rating over 90


Josh Allen runs the Earnhardt -perkins offense the same as Brady. Less than 7 % of Allen's runs are designed. In fact most of the time Allen like Mahomes scrambles around to pass

Josh Allens game is a sandlot style that is dependent on his passing. Similar to Elway, Favre, Young or Rodger " the dodger" Staubach

Josh Allen has the greatest arm talent, arm strength and probably second quickest release behind Marino

Josh Allen has outplayed mahomes three straight times
Josh Allen has been an all pro
Josh Allen has the fifth highest rated playoff QB rating in NFL history ( min 150 attempts)

Josh Allen is the only QB in NFL history with a perfect playoff game 7 possessions 7 tds no turnovers no punts

Josh Allen has a lower turnover % than " joe cool"
Joe burrow has the same amount of int as Allen in the playoffs despite being in one less game

Josh Allen is the only QB in NFL history with back to back years of 4000 + passing yards, 700 rushing yards and 30 plus TD passes. Nobody has ever done it yet Allen did it twice back to back lol

Allens oline was ranked 24th last year and his wrs led the NFL in drop % and were bottom of the league in yac

Buffalos wr group was ravaged with injuries last year

Before Allens elbow injury he outplayed mahomes yet again and had a QB rating of 109
After partially tearing his elbow his QB rating was 94 in the second half of the year which is still pretty remarkable



I personally think mahomes is the greatest QB I've ever seen in I believe he is going to be a babe Ruth like legend.

But can we please live in reality

Allen has broken Dan Marino's TD record for his first five years and tied Manning in TD ( passes) for his first five years. Mahomes probably tops him because he didn't play as a rookie but it's still incredible...

Good point. It's insulting to compare him to Cam Newton.

Josh Allen is more like Kordell Stewart

[Kelly 2 Allen]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Good point. It's insulting to compare him to Cam Newton.

Josh Allen is more like Kordell Stewart

I agree mahomes reminds me of Russell Wilson... Lol

[Jewish Rabbi]

Originally Posted by Kelly 2 Allen

Cam newton never had back to back winning seasons
Cam newton was an rpo QB who's game was dependent on him running.
Cam newton had two years in his entire career with a QB rating over 90


Josh Allen runs the Earnhardt -perkins offense the same as Brady. Less than 7 % of Allen's runs are designed. In fact most of the time Allen like Mahomes scrambles around to pass

Josh Allens game is a sandlot style that is dependent on his passing. Similar to Elway, Favre, Young or Rodger " the dodger" Staubach

Josh Allen has the greatest arm talent, arm strength and probably second quickest release behind Marino

Josh Allen has outplayed mahomes three straight times
Josh Allen has been an all pro
Josh Allen has the fifth highest rated playoff QB rating in NFL history ( min 150 attempts)

Josh Allen is the only QB in NFL history with a perfect playoff game 7 possessions 7 tds no turnovers no punts

Josh Allen has a lower turnover % than " joe cool"
Joe burrow has the same amount of int as Allen in the playoffs despite being in one less game

Josh Allen is the only QB in NFL history with back to back years of 4000 + passing yards, 700 rushing yards and 30 plus TD passes. Nobody has ever done it yet Allen did it twice back to back lol

Allens oline was ranked 24th last year and his wrs led the NFL in drop % and were bottom of the league in yac

Buffalos wr group was ravaged with injuries last year

Before Allens elbow injury he outplayed mahomes yet again and had a QB rating of 109
After partially tearing his elbow his QB rating was 94 in the second half of the year which is still pretty remarkable



I personally think mahomes is the greatest QB I've ever seen in I believe he is going to be a babe Ruth like legend.

But can we please live in reality

Allen has broken Dan Marino's TD record for his first five years and tied Manning in TD ( passes) for his first five years. Mahomes probably tops him because he didn't play as a rookie but it's still incredible...

Okay I didn’t read this but I doubt I missed anything of value

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

Okay I didn’t read this but I doubt I missed anything of value

He basically agreed with me but argued that Josh Allen dresses more gay.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Kelly 2 Allen

Cam newton never had back to back winning seasons
Cam newton was an rpo QB who's game was dependent on him running.
Cam newton had two years in his entire career with a QB rating over 90


Josh Allen runs the Earnhardt -perkins offense the same as Brady. Less than 7 % of Allen's runs are designed. In fact most of the time Allen like Mahomes scrambles around to pass

Josh Allens game is a sandlot style that is dependent on his passing. Similar to Elway, Favre, Young or Rodger " the dodger" Staubach

Josh Allen has the greatest arm talent, arm strength and probably second quickest release behind Marino

Josh Allen has outplayed mahomes three straight times
Josh Allen has been an all pro
Josh Allen has the fifth highest rated playoff QB rating in NFL history ( min 150 attempts)

Josh Allen is the only QB in NFL history with a perfect playoff game 7 possessions 7 tds no turnovers no punts

Josh Allen has a lower turnover % than " joe cool"
Joe burrow has the same amount of int as Allen in the playoffs despite being in one less game

Josh Allen is the only QB in NFL history with back to back years of 4000 + passing yards, 700 rushing yards and 30 plus TD passes. Nobody has ever done it yet Allen did it twice back to back lol

Allens oline was ranked 24th last year and his wrs led the NFL in drop % and were bottom of the league in yac

Buffalos wr group was ravaged with injuries last year

Before Allens elbow injury he outplayed mahomes yet again and had a QB rating of 109
After partially tearing his elbow his QB rating was 94 in the second half of the year which is still pretty remarkable



I personally think mahomes is the greatest QB I've ever seen in I believe he is going to be a babe Ruth like legend.

But can we please live in reality

Allen has broken Dan Marino's TD record for his first five years and tied Manning in TD ( passes) for his first five years. Mahomes probably tops him because he didn't play as a rookie but it's still incredible...

No player in NFL history lasts playing as stupid as he does. The injuries started last year and won't stop. He isn't "tough" either

[Kelly 2 Allen]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother

No player in NFL history lasts playing as stupid as he does. The injuries started last year and won't stop. He isn't "tough" either

Allen has the most consecutive starts in the NFL right now and both times he got hurt were in the pocket from a missed block

Allen like any QB will get hurt if buffalo can't improve the line and have a legitimate playoff run game.

Allen won't get hurt scrambling around imo

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Kelly 2 Allen

Allen has the most consecutive starts in the NFL right now and both times he got hurt were in the pocket from a missed block

Allen like any QB will get hurt if buffalo can't improve the line and have a legitimate playoff run game.

Allen won't get hurt scrambling around imo

He will and he was hurt running like an idiot. Running QBs like him don't last...PERIOD

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Kelly 2 Allen

Cam newton never had back to back winning seasons
Cam newton was an rpo QB who's game was dependent on him running.
Cam newton had two years in his entire career with a QB rating over 90


Josh Allen runs the Earnhardt -perkins offense the same as Brady. Less than 7 % of Allen's runs are designed. In fact most of the time Allen like Mahomes scrambles around to pass

Josh Allens game is a sandlot style that is dependent on his passing. Similar to Elway, Favre, Young or Rodger " the dodger" Staubach

Josh Allen has the greatest arm talent, arm strength and probably second quickest release behind Marino

Josh Allen has outplayed mahomes three straight times
Josh Allen has been an all pro
Josh Allen has the fifth highest rated playoff QB rating in NFL history ( min 150 attempts)

Josh Allen is the only QB in NFL history with a perfect playoff game 7 possessions 7 tds no turnovers no punts

Josh Allen has a lower turnover % than " joe cool"
Joe burrow has the same amount of int as Allen in the playoffs despite being in one less game

Josh Allen is the only QB in NFL history with back to back years of 4000 + passing yards, 700 rushing yards and 30 plus TD passes. Nobody has ever done it yet Allen did it twice back to back lol

Allens oline was ranked 24th last year and his wrs led the NFL in drop % and were bottom of the league in yac

Buffalos wr group was ravaged with injuries last year

Before Allens elbow injury he outplayed mahomes yet again and had a QB rating of 109
After partially tearing his elbow his QB rating was 94 in the second half of the year which is still pretty remarkable



I personally think mahomes is the greatest QB I've ever seen in I believe he is going to be a babe Ruth like legend.

But can we please live in reality

Allen has broken Dan Marino's TD record for his first five years and tied Manning in TD ( passes) for his first five years. Mahomes probably tops him because he didn't play as a rookie but it's still incredible...

Cam Newton took his team to a Super Bowl.

[Kelly 2 Allen]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Cam Newton took his team to a Super Bowl.

So did McNabb , brad Johnson and Phil Simms. Trent dilfer played in a super bowl....

Not sure what the point is

13 seconds wasn't his fault.

Do you want to keep rubbing it in. I still think Allen and the bills have as good a shot as anyone as this core will mostly be together through 24. 25 will be a transition year

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Kelly 2 Allen

So did McNabb , brad Johnson and Phil Simms. Trent dilfer played in a super bowl....

Not sure what the point is

13 seconds wasn't his fault.

Do you want to keep rubbing it in. I still think Allen and the bills have as good a shot as anyone as this core will mostly be together through 24. 25 will be a transition year

No, it was a statement of fact. Cam Newton did what most QBs never do during their careers.

[rfaulk34]

Originally Posted by Kelly 2 Allen

Josh Allen has the fifth highest rated playoff QB rating in NFL history ( min 150 attempts)

Josh Allen had 1 good playoff run (2021--2 games) 9/0 td/int, 149rating. In the other 6 playoff games, he's 60% completions, 8/4 td/int for a 85 rating.

2 games, 149 rating.
6 games, 85 rating.

Where is the trend?