Decision to be made on #1 four days before draft

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Stafford was a better project than Geno. Period.

He didn't just have a better arm, he had three years of increasingly productive play in the premiere college conference while playing in a pro-style offense.

Stafford never passed for better than 61% in college (and he was a shitty 52 and 55% his first two years).

51 TDs to 33 Ints.

That's not Geno level numbers - and he had a running game and defense to support him.

He has a cannon. But there is also a reason that the Lions made Calvin Johnson the richest man in the NFL - because Stafford still has no touch and needs a guy like Johnson to make those plays downfield.

Right now, he's Culpepper with Moss.

He was drafted that high for the same reason guys like Jamarcus Russell, Jay Cutler and Kyler Boller were drafted high - huge arm.

But let's not make it out like he was the second coming of Elway. He wasn't.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Stafford never passed for better than 61% in college (and he was a shitty 52 and 55% his first two years).

51 TDs to 33 Ints.

That's not Geno level numbers - and he had a running game and defense to support him.

He has a cannon. But there is also a reason that the Lions made Calvin Johnson the richest man in the NFL - because Stafford still has no touch and needs a guy like Johnson to make those plays downfield.

Right now, he's Culpepper with Moss.

He was drafted that high for the same reason guys like Jamarcus Russell, Jay Cutler and Kyler Boller were drafted high - huge arm.

But let's not make it out like he was the second coming of Elway. He wasn't.

Im a Geno supporter but Im sure his compl % was inflated due to screen passes that he threw alot

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life

Im a Geno supporter but Im sure his compl % was inflated due to screen passes that he threw alot

Yup.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Yup.

I still like the kid. I like his confidence but I still dont get how you can complete 71% and he's called very inconsistent. Maybe theyre talking about deep ball. But SOME deep balls are kind of a luck pass. Alex Smith has been a good deep ball passer FWIW

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life

I still like the kid. I like his confidence but I still dont get how you can complete 71% and he's called very inconsistent. Maybe theyre talking about deep ball. But deep balls are kind of a luck pass. Alex Smith has been a good deep ball passer FWIW

wut

[RedDread]

Originally Posted by Ponderception

wut

I think he means a Luck pass.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Ponderception

wut

They're like home runs.

No one knows when they're going to happen.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

They're like home runs.

No one knows when they're going to happen.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by Ponderception

wut

Look at Flacco's deep balls lol some of those were very lucky

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life

Look at Flacco's deep balls lol some of those were very lucky

I think you're very lucky that you don't fall out of bed every morning and break your nose on the floor.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life

Look at Flacco's deep balls lol some of those were very lucky

This is seriously not only one of the dumbest arguments I've ever read on any message board, but also one of the worst attempts I've seen to justify said argument.

Jesus Christ.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life

Look at Flacco's deep balls lol some of those were very lucky

There ya go ponder. Said some. Now shut the **** up

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life

I still like the kid. I like his confidence but I still dont get how you can complete 71% and he's called very inconsistent. Maybe theyre talking about deep ball. But deep balls are kind of a luck pass. Alex Smith has been a good deep ball passer FWIW

Alex Smith threw the ball deep less than Cassel.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Alex Smith threw the ball less than Cassel.

I thought a stat was posted that he had a good compl % on his deep ball

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life

Im a Geno supporter but Im sure his compl % was inflated due to screen passes that he threw alot

Matt Stafford:

6.8
7.3
9.0

Geno Smith

6.3
7.4
8.3
8.1

Yards per attempt.

Oh, and watch this game (just Geno's passes):



Talk to me about screen passes.