OK, here's the deal...

[DaFace]

As much fun as all of the controversy has been the last couple days, the mods have discussed all of this craziness (yes, there are enough of us to have discussion now!) and decided to clarify a few things. So...here ya go.

1. The rules aren't changing. They're the same as they've been for years.
2. We WILL be trying to enforce them a little more consistently. Things like bypassing the filters and threats will be handled when reported, and sometimes when they're not. Just depends on how cranky we are.
3. However, we aren't going to go banning people on sight unless they either refuse to comply or have been a repeat offender. You'll get a warning or two if you're doing something that's iffy.
4. The infractions system is not meant to be used to rapid-fire infractions to get someone banned. Anyone who uses them for that purpose (unless you're killing spammers) will lose the privs immediately.

That said, Hootie fully reinstated and can consider this a warning that he went too far. CC can consider this a warning not to abuse the infractions system (as can H5N1). GoChiefs would be unbanned as well, but you can't come back screaming "**** the mods" and expect that to be all fine and dandy. However, his sentence is being reduced back to two weeks. He needs some time to work on his next video anyway.

I know this whole deal has been a bit of a mess, but just wanted to reemphasize that nothing's changing. In general, don't be a douchebag, and you'll be fine. The end.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

You're right, it wasn't terribly smart.

Then again, he could have divulged that information to any other person on the board, and the chances of it being used against him would be slim to nil.

Dude was trying to explain why Hootie's post bothered him by personalizing it.

It's kinda like someone using the word "reerun," then getting a message from another member asking to tone it down because they have a mentally handicapped child/grandchild/etc.

999,999 times out of a million, that person wakes up, and at least tries to tone it down.

The other time, you get Hootie'd.

Aren't you leaving out the part where CC then attacked hootie? Its not like hootie went straight to print with this info that never should have been shared with him.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

You learned nothing that you wouldn't have already known from reading the thread and, yet, you applied it to Hootie with an attempt at derived equivalence. Pull your head out of your ass rather than jumping into threads without knowing what the **** you're talking about.

You're going to keep believing what you want so I won't try to change your mind. But don't forget that all of this confusion could have been avoided if you'd just been able to turn your thoughts into words instead of leaving it for people to guess. I have no way of knowing whether your failure to articulate your position is because you don't know how or because you realized that it wouldn't stand up to scrutiny. I know which one I think it is though.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

You're right, it wasn't terribly smart.

Then again, he could have divulged that information to any other person on the board, and the chances of it being used against him would be slim to nil.

Dude was trying to explain why Hootie's post bothered him by personalizing it.

It's kinda like someone using the word "reerun," then getting a message from another member asking to tone it down because they have a mentally handicapped child/grandchild/etc.

999,999 times out of a million, that person wakes up, and at least tries to tone it down.

The other time, you get Hootie'd.

Very good point, and i think we can all agree that Hootie is a real dick.

[Frazod]

Oh shit! Patty's bringing in reinforcements from DC!

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Aren't you leaving out the part where CC then attacked hootie? Its not like hootie went straight to print with this info that never should have been shared with him.

To me, it's irrelevant.

Then again, I'm not the type to use something like that against someone, even if they were my biggest enemy. Maybe you need to be married to understand that.

Some lines you don't cross.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Then again, I'm not the type to use something like that against someone, even if they were my biggest enemy. Maybe you need to be married to understand that.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

To me, it's irrelevant.

Then again, I'm not the type to use something like that against someone, even if they were my biggest enemy. Maybe you need to be married to understand that.

Some lines you don't cross.

That might be true, but don't we all know by now that Hootie doesn't recognize the same lines as the rest of us do?

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by scott free

Very good point, and i think we can all agree that Hootie is a real dick.

Even hootie agrees with that. Its not like he tries to lure you in by pretending he's something he's not. His cards are all on the table.

If I walk into a Black Panther rally and call them all the "n word", they don't have the right to shoot me, but I shouldn't be shocked if they do.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by patteeu

That might be true, but don't we all know by now that Hootie doesn't recognize the same lines as the rest of us do?

So are you suggesting that Hootie is put on universal ignore?

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Bowser

So are you suggesting that Hootie is put on universal ignore?

No. I'm suggesting that people take personal responsibility with their own sensitive information and telling Hootie what your hot button is at the same time you're harassing him isn't a good idea.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

To me, it's irrelevant.

Then again, I'm not the type to use something like that against someone, even if they were my biggest enemy. Maybe you need to be married to understand that.

Some lines you don't cross.

I'm married, and I agree with the don't cross that line part. That said, hootie makes it clear at every opportunity that he doesn't play by that set of rules.

I don't even know what the info was, but it doesn't matter to me. You don't share private info over the internet with a stranger who makes it clear that he is not above using it against you. Ignoring that, you sure as hell don't give that same person a reason to want to piss you off.

Don't crawl into the lion's den and then get mad at the lion for doing what lions do.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Bowser

So are you suggesting that Hootie is put on universal ignore?

Beat me to it.

Generally speaking, Pat - yes, we all know he doesn't recognize the same lines.

But the line in question isn't even on the same playing field. Sure, he says stupid shit and crosses obvious lines for attention.

I think this incident proved without a fraction of a doubt that the kid has no lines whatsoever.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

I'm married, and I agree with the don't cross that line part. That said, hootie makes it clear at every opportunity that he doesn't play by that set of rules.

I don't even know what the info was, but it doesn't matter to me.

Sorry, then your opinion really carries no weight on this.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by patteeu

No. I'm suggesting that people take personal responsibility with their own sensitive information and telling Hootie what your hot button is at the same time you're harassing him isn't a good idea.

An excellent idea. Want to hear another excellent idea? How about nobody gets their panties tied up in a knot when Hootie gets piled on for "crossing lines", even if he makes no bones about the fact he'll do it. Hootie is anything but a victim here.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by patteeu

You're going to keep believing what you want so I won't try to change your mind. But don't forget that all of this confusion could have been avoided if you'd just been able to turn your thoughts into words instead of leaving it for people to guess. I have no way of knowing whether your failure to articulate your position is because you don't know how or because you realized that it wouldn't stand up to scrutiny. I know which one I think it is though.

My thoughts were fine. You apparently didn't bother to read the thread prior to jumping in. The context made the comments abundantly clear.