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Old 09-23-2021, 12:41 PM   #1
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Intriguing.
Thats essentially prototypical size for a LEO, right?
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Old 09-23-2021, 12:44 PM   #2
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Thats essentially prototypical size for a LEO, right?
Pretty much. An ideal 34 OLB in the Patriots system.
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Old 09-23-2021, 12:48 PM   #3
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Old 09-23-2021, 02:25 PM   #4
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Thats essentially prototypical size for a LEO, right?
Also a good Sam candidate.

The issue is the overlap. If he's in at Sam it's presumably on running downs (you don't want him in coverage so Sam is out on passing downs) so if he's at Sam , you still have problems on the edge w/ Jones being green out there and Clark being ineffective in running situations.

If he's at the LEO, you still have an issue w/ the Sam 'backer in base formations (i.e. running downs). Perhaps the hope would be that moving Jones back inside in those situations would yield better run defense?

I guess his best role may end up being what we should've gone after Ingram for - LEO in passing downs. He can probably still generate a little pressure.

But it still leaves us robbing Peter to pay Paul against the run.

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Also a good Sam candidate.

The issue is the overlap. If he's in at Sam it's presumably on running downs (you don't want him in coverage so Sam is out on passing downs) so if he's at Sam , you still have problems on the edge w/ Jones being green out there and Clark being ineffective in running situations.

If he's at the LEO, you still have an issue w/ the Sam 'backer in base formations (i.e. running downs). Perhaps the hope would be that moving Jones back inside in those situations would yield better run defense?

I guess his best role may end up being what we should've gone after Ingram for - LEO in passing downs. He can probably still generate a little pressure.

But it still leaves us robbing Peter to pay Paul against the run.

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Is Gay not the SAM backer? Pretty sure Spagnuolo said something about that being where he'd get reps.

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Is Gay not the SAM backer? Pretty sure Spagnuolo said something about that being where he'd get reps.
I felt like that was their 'ease him in' role last year and that he was going to play more Will this year w/ Bolton as the Sam. At least that's what I would imagine based on their respective skill-sets.

But they also use slightly different LB terminology than I'm used to so I'm not real sure how they utilize a 'buck backer' or whatever they call it.

But if you use conventional terms to describe their roles, I would say that Gay, being far more athletic, is likely to be your 'Will' as conventionally described (coverage backer who occasionally rushes) and Bolton as your Sam (occasionally covers TEs but more frequently in a run support role; physical, downhill player), regardless of what they actually call them.

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Is Gay not the SAM backer? Pretty sure Spagnuolo said something about that being where he'd get reps.

Edit: somehow gave the post a thumbs down. Hate that you can't change that shit.
Gay was learning the Sam position last year. His problem is he can’t get healthy enough to play.
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