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Old 02-08-2021, 10:03 AM  
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Veach's '21 Offseason Plan to Keep Us Thriving: Let's speculate
In order to prevent us wasting precious years of Patrick Mahomes' career, Veach needs to work some magic this offseason. What's your advice for him?
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Old 03-04-2021, 10:56 AM   #2161
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Old 03-04-2021, 11:02 AM   #2162
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Love it, but I don’t think he makes it to 31, and if we draft him it would likely be to play LT (unless they like Niang there).
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Old 03-04-2021, 11:03 AM   #2163
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Dude is apparently drawing interest from a LOT of teams, gotta wonder if he'll be there for us at 31
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Old 03-04-2021, 11:05 AM   #2164
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Love it, but I don’t think he makes it to 31, and if we draft him it would likely be to play LT (unless they like Niang there).
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Dude is apparently drawing interest from a LOT of teams, gotta wonder if he'll be there for us at 31
What would it take to get from 31 to around 20? A 2nd round pick next year?
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Chargers moved from 37 to 23 for a 3rd round pick last year.
49ers went from 31 to 25 for a 4th and 7th.
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In 2019....the Packers traded from 30 to 21 for two 4th round picks.

So I think if they want to get Jenkins, they’d be able to trade up for him.
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Old 03-04-2021, 11:13 AM   #2167
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In 2019....the Packers traded from 30 to 21 for two 4th round picks.

So I think if they want to get Jenkins, they’d be able to trade up for him.
If Veach and co really like him I wouldn't complain, lock down one of the tackle spots for the next ten years
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In 2019....the Packers traded from 30 to 21 for two 4th round picks.

So I think if they want to get Jenkins, they’d be able to trade up for him.
I’m al for it, but like Nate Taylor mentioned on the Time Is Yours podcast, a lot of the people picking ahead of us will be looking for a T as well. Finding a trade partner could be difficult, but it’s definitely a possibility.
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Old 03-04-2021, 11:18 AM   #2169
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We NEED whatever the draft board has available. If that's DE, CB, LB, OT, WR, or whatever, we shouldn't let the draft board be completely dictated by happenstance.

Just because you'e been successful at acquiring cheap help at CB or OT means you abandon the other options for acquiring them.

I mean, we got Wharton as a UDFA so maybe we shouldn't spend high draft picks on DL either, right?
My one addendum to your good post.
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I’m al for it, but like Nate Taylor mentioned on the Time Is Yours podcast, a lot of the people picking ahead of us will be looking for a T as well. Finding a trade partner could be difficult, but it’s definitely a possibility.
Yeah, I think we’d need to get up into the 18-20 range to grab one if we want one.
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Reaching for an OT in the first one when there’s better talent on the board is how you **** over your team. If he’s equal with other different positions than by all means....take that OT and be good with it. If he’s the 12th rated OT and you pass on the 3rd rated DE....then that’s ****ing stupid.
Unless the 12th rated tackle is a better player than the 3rd rated DE. Which, obviously 1) that won't happen and 2) 11 tackles aren't going in the first 30 picks. It's just a hypothetical.

All I am saying is, a lot of the talk here has shifted since Veach said he is "hopeful" that both guys are back for training camp. That just seems like really wishful thinking. Hoping it doesn't flood and preparing for it are different things.

My dream scenario is signing Linsley, drafting IOL in the 4th-6th, and using one of our first two picks on a tackle who can kick inside to guard if/when Fisher and Schwartz both come back. But I don't think it's safe to bet they both will.
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What the **** do you do on the offensive line if you trade up for him?

Do you say **** Schwartz and start Jenkins at RT? Do you put him at LT if Fisher isn’t ready? What do you do with Niang?
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What the **** do you do on the offensive line if you trade up for him?

Do you say **** Schwartz and start Jenkins at RT? Do you put him at LT if Fisher isn’t ready? What do you do with Niang?
Make him and Niang compete for LT, whoever loses slides to RT and hopefully gives us 10 year bookends
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Make him and Niang compete for LT, whoever loses slides to RT and hopefully gives us 10 year bookends
Are they backups if Fisher and Schwartz are able to play this year? Trading up for a backup RT isn’t going to sit well.
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Are they backups if Fisher and Schwartz are able to play this year? Trading up for a backup RT isn’t going to sit well.
Yea it’s a tough situation.

Honestly, I think they’re better off getting a DE in the 1st then taking Hudson, Little, or Smith on day 2.
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