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Old 05-20-2020, 02:46 PM   #1
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HBO Max would be far better off doing a half-assed alternative ending of Game of Thrones where Jon and Dany leave King's Landing, where they re-light Episode 3 and have Jon fight and lose against the NK in Ep 3, and split Episode 4 into two episodes. Fans would eat that shit up and it would "salvage" GOT Season 8.

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Pretty sure HBO has moved on to the prequels and are pretending that steaming pile of shit of a last GOT season never existed.

Yeah, HBO is done with Weiss & Benioff, so there's no chance of an alternate conclusion.

Seriously, off the top of my head, I can't remember a time when the conclusion of a TV series led to the virtual end of careers, like it has with B&W. I stopped watching around Season 3 but if the ending is anywhere near as foul as the ending to LOST, they deserve the kind of response they've been given by fans of the show.

I swore to never watch anything in which Damon Lindeloff has his mitts on and to day, I've been able to keep that promise. If fans of GoT feel the same way, then B&W are going to have a rough ride ahead.
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Old 05-20-2020, 04:00 PM   #2
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I swore to never watch anything in which Damon Lindeloff has his mitts on and to day, I've been able to keep that promise.
You're missing out on two of the best shows of the past decade (Leftovers, Watchmen) having taken that position.
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You're missing out on two of the best shows of the past decade (Leftovers, Watchmen) having taken that position.
That is fine by me. I will never patronize that douchebag's work.

Ever.
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Old 05-20-2020, 04:44 PM   #4
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You're missing out on two of the best shows of the past decade (Leftovers, Watchmen) having taken that position.
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Weren't you the guy who didn't want to watch it (and supposedly never did) because it you thought it had politics you disagreed with in it based on the trailers? A silly approach to take, but to each his own. In any case, I'm far from the only one to think it was good last year:

#25 on this list for decade: https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-l...tchmen-914768/

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Best of 2019: https://www.newsweek.com/best-tv-sho...tchmen-1479617
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Old 05-21-2020, 10:56 AM   #6
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Weren't you the guy who didn't want to watch it (and supposedly never did) because it you thought it had politics you disagreed with in it based on the trailers? A silly approach to take, but to each his own. In any case, I'm far from the only one to think it was good last year:

#25 on this list for decade: https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-l...tchmen-914768/

#1 on this list for 2019: https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/12/...n-russian-doll

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VOX and Rolling Stone.... Let's just leave it at that and not hijack this thread. You are welcome to watch all the Wokemen you want. When does season 2 come out?
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VOX and Rolling Stone.... Let's just leave it at that and not hijack this thread. You are welcome to watch all the Wokemen you want. When does season 2 come out?
And you're welcome to dismiss a show that you haven't ever seen for no good reason at all. Again, it's no skin off my back.
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You're missing out on two of the best shows of the past decade (Leftovers, Watchmen) having taken that position.
The Watchmen series was better than expected and was up and down in parts but episode 6 with the origin story of Hooded Justice was one of the best hours of television ever made. I honestly can't believe Lindelof was remotely involved with anything having to do with that episode...
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Old 05-20-2020, 04:09 PM   #9
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Yeah, HBO is done with Weiss & Benioff, so there's no chance of an alternate conclusion.

Seriously, off the top of my head, I can't remember a time when the conclusion of a TV series led to the virtual end of careers, like it has with B&W. I stopped watching around Season 3 but if the ending is anywhere near as foul as the ending to LOST, they deserve the kind of response they've been given by fans of the show.

I swore to never watch anything in which Damon Lindeloff has his mitts on and to day, I've been able to keep that promise. If fans of GoT feel the same way, then B&W are going to have a rough ride ahead.
It's been a few years, but from what I remember, Lost had a weird last episode. And that was pretty much it.

Game of Thrones went to shit for years before the final season swirled down the bowl. Season 5 had some moments but it was clear they couldn't handle anything beyond the confines of the books. Season 6 was bad. Season 7 was worse. Season 8 was maybe the worst season of a formerly great show in the history of television. I'll never watch it again, this after watching the first 4 seasons multiple times each.


It'll be interesting seeing what Snyder's cut actually ends up being. It may well be that Joss Whedon butchered a potentially decent movie, as hard as that is to believe. Although I'm one of the few people that didn't hate Man of Steel and BvS, and one of the very, very few who didn't think The Avengers was really all that great.
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It'll be interesting seeing what Snyder's cut actually ends up being. It may well be that Joss Whedon butchered a potentially decent movie, as hard as that is to believe. Although I'm one of the few people that didn't hate Man of Steel and BvS, and one of the very, very few who didn't think The Avengers was really all that great.
I've never been a fan of Joss Whedon's work. When I initially saw The Avengers, I just couldn't connect with it and it took me several viewings to finish it.

As I've mentioned a few times, I watched all 23 Marvel films in chronological order last month and in that context, I liked the movie a bit better. But The Avengers and Age of Ulton failed to live up to my expectations, especially when compared to the Russo Brother's Marvel films.

I'm sure I'll watch this monstrosity once it's on HBO Max but it's not anything I look forward to seeing and it will just likely be something I watch because nothing else sounds appealing.
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Old 05-20-2020, 04:45 PM   #11
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I've never been a fan of Joss Whedon's work. When I initially saw The Avengers, I just couldn't connect with it and it took me several viewings to finish it.
I love his TV work. But aside from Serenity (which was basically a big budget extended final episode of Firefly) and Cabin the Woods (which I haven't seen...), I can't think of any movie he's done that was more than just 'okay'.
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It's been a few years, but from what I remember, Lost had a weird last episode. And that was pretty much it.
I remember they denied for years the characters being in purgatory. And that’s what it ended up being.
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I remember they denied for years the characters being in purgatory. And that’s what it ended up being.
Lost is still a top 5 fav show but they completely ****ed up the ending - either JJ or the other guy made a statement that after watching breaking bad's finale they realized how terrible their ending was lol
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I remember they denied for years the characters being in purgatory. And that’s what it ended up being.
It wasn't purgatory. At least the island wasn't, I guess you could call the flash-sideways world purgatory.But everything that happened on the island happened.
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Yeah, HBO is done with Weiss & Benioff, so there's no chance of an alternate conclusion.

Seriously, off the top of my head, I can't remember a time when the conclusion of a TV series led to the virtual end of careers, like it has with B&W. I stopped watching around Season 3 but if the ending is anywhere near as foul as the ending to LOST, they deserve the kind of response they've been given by fans of the show.
I'd rate them about the same. With Lost, it had been such a ****ing mess for so long that I literally had no idea how they could wrap it up in a way that made sense, but a naive part of me thought maybe they could pull it off. Wrong. With GoT, however, I could visualize so many better ways they could have done it, and instead they just said to hell with this shit, we're wrapping it up, **** everybody who's devoted years to this show, we're moving on. Like it wasn't bad enough dealing with Martin's eternal procrastination. Hell, the show's been done for what, two years now, and the lazy prick still hasn't finished the sixth book.

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I swore to never watch anything in which Damon Lindeloff has his mitts on and to day, I've been able to keep that promise. If fans of GoT feel the same way, then B&W are going to have a rough ride ahead.
I feel the same way about David Lynch. I think by now everybody knows why.
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