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Old 12-08-2019, 07:03 PM  
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Has Reid fixed what wasn’t broken?

Great win today. But the offense and situational manage to continues to not be good.

What’s most troubling to me is the dynamics of the offense have been pretty much reduced to a more normal level. Mahomes has really reduced his willingness lately to throw down field, especially on third down. Without breaking everything down I can’t give numbers but I think we all see Mahomes being too willing to check it down and not throw beyond the sticks on third downs given the chance. The third down check down late to Hill comes to mind. He had two options wide open right in his field of vision but didn’t go there. Sometimes he has good pockets and sometimes not, but that was the case all last season too. We haven’t protected him well with any consistent so I don’t view that as the main culprit.

So what’s the issue? Reid encouraging him to “take what the defense gives you” too much? Reid calling plays that encourage short plays too much? Mahomes not reading the field correctly? Mahomes bailing from clean pockets too often?
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Old 12-08-2019, 08:45 PM   #31
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Defense gets an A-
Offense gets a C-
Andy Reid's 2nd half play calling gets and F
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Old 12-08-2019, 09:31 PM   #32
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Old 12-08-2019, 09:35 PM   #33
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Andy Reid's 2nd half play calling gets and F
This. We should've curbstomped those ****s.
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Old 12-08-2019, 09:38 PM   #34
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Defense gets an A-
Offense gets a C-
Andy Reid's 2nd half play calling gets and F
Scho, you are a good dude - but you are wrong here.
Andy dialed up some awesome plays in the 2nd half:
-A wide open Tyreek in the middle of the end zone, Pat passed it up.
-He had Robinson on a post wide open MOF that he hung onto too long and threw it away.
-Had Kelce down the sideline with leverage late needing 10, but threw it short of the sticks
- Next series he checked down to Hill needing more yards but had both Watkins and Kelce crossing at levels that would have easily converted a first down.

Patrick was ultra conservative with his decision making late in the game, and he is not trusting that Oline. That is to be sure. Reiter seems to be the biggest issue right now. Schwartz was off today too....
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Old 12-08-2019, 09:40 PM   #35
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Umm. That Pat D is like... the best in the game. Why are we acting like they're inept like the Raiders?
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Old 12-08-2019, 09:41 PM   #36
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Umm. That Pat D is like... the best in the game. Why are we acting like they're inept like the Raiders?
Because they’ve shown very little against winning teams and aren’t that good. They’ve feasted on shitty teams and lost to good ones.
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Old 12-08-2019, 09:41 PM   #37
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I don't really blame Reid's playcalling at all. Mahomes missed wide open guys a couple times and more importantly, we were rolling down the field and were going to score and take a big lead when Kelce fumbled and flipped the game. It wasn't a 2nd half masterpiece but there were some major execution mistakes out there by the players too.
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Old 12-08-2019, 09:44 PM   #38
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Defense gets an A-
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Andy Reid's 2nd half play calling gets and F
Tell us precisely how you would have changed the play-calling.
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Old 12-08-2019, 09:45 PM   #39
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I don't really blame Reid's playcalling at all. Mahomes missed wide open guys a couple times and more importantly, we were rolling down the field and were going to score and take a big lead when Kelce fumbled and flipped the game. It wasn't a 2nd half masterpiece but there were some major execution mistakes out there by the players too.
Punt block plus Kelce fumble were huge plays. Would have been a much easier win if not for those mistakes.
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Tell us precisely how you would have changed the play-calling.
That 3rd down play where Hill didn't go to the sticks, for starters...
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I loved that Spags was dialing up Blitzes, we also stopped NE on a couple key 3rd and 4th downs.
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That 3rd down play where Hill didn't go to the sticks, for starters...
Watkins and Kelce were both wide open on that play. That was on Mahomes not Reid.
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Watkins and Kelce were both wide open on that play. That was on Mahomes not Reid.
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Old 12-09-2019, 12:34 AM   #44
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All i know is Pat was around what 230 yards in the first half with a 20-7 lead.

Second half he finishes with 283 yards and scored 3 points.

The mindset ****ing changed somewhere. 50 yards passing in the second half.

Last year Pat was a ****ing gunslinger. These past 3 weeks, He's been Alex Smith.
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