Chiefs Division title up for grabs now

RaidersOftheCellar · 10-19-2019, 10:06 AM

I know people here get off on being sophomoric and all, but what's so controversial about this?

Last week the narrative was "Mahomes has no help--we suck! We won't make da playoffs, worst D in NFL history!!"

Now we're not worried about losing him for four games? No one's worried about the defense anymore? All is fixed? Because...they put Flacco on the ground?

The only thing being suggested here is that a semi-decent Oakland might be able to beat some shitbags on their schedule. Again, they don't have to beat a single good team to finish 10-6.

TEX · 10-19-2019, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

I know people here get off on being sophomoric and all, but what's so controversial about this?

Last week the narrative was "Mahomes has no help--we suck! We won't make da playoffs, worst D in NFL history!!"

Now we're not worried about losing him for four games? No one's worried about the defense anymore? All is fixed? Because...they put Flacco on the ground?

The only thing being suggested here is that a semi-decent Oakland might be able to beat some shitbags on their schedule. Again, they don't have to beat a single good team to finish 10-6.

No, but they do have to beat teams when the games count more and that is more pressure. A team needs to learn how to win, before it can count on winning games that it needs to win. I don't think Oakland passes that test and they'll lose a couple that they "should / could" win. I can see them losing several out of Jets, Lions, Chargers, Titans, Jags.

RaidersOftheCellar · 10-19-2019, 10:17 AM

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No, but they do have to beat teams when the games count more and that is more pressure. A team needs to learn how to win, before they can count on winning games they need to win. I don't think Oakland passes that test and they'll lose a couple that they "should" win.

Probably, but they might steal one or two that they shouldn't win.

Regardless, I can envision a scenario where KC finishes 8-8 or 9-7, with Moore at the helm for a month, and games in New England and Chicago down the stretch.

TEX · 10-19-2019, 10:21 AM

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Probably, but they might steal one or two that they shouldn't win.

Regardless, I can envision a scenario where KC finishes 8-8 or 9-7, with Moore at the helm for a month, and games in New England and Chicago down the stretch.

Only way that happens is IF KC loses every game while Mahomes is out. If Mahomes misses 4 games & KC goes 2-2 and loses to NE & Chi - that's 10-6 right there. VERY Doable.

I think 10-6 wins the West and will certainly get a WC b/c the AFC as a whole isn't very deep. 9-7 has a decent chance this year of getting a WC.

RaidersOftheCellar · 10-19-2019, 10:31 AM

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Only way that happens is IF KC loses every game while Mahomes is out. If Mahomes misses 4 games & KC goes 2-2 and loses to NE & Chi - that's 10-6 right there. VERY Doable.

I think 10-6 wins the West and will certainly get a WC b/c the AFC as a whole isn't very deep. 9-7 has a decent chance this year of getting a WC.

You're saying you can't see a scenario where Moore drops 3 of 4 and Mahomes loses in New England and Chicago? That's 9-7.

And what if the Chargers get healthy and get their shit together? Those games may not be gimmes.

Color me concerned when we're likely to have a disadvantage at QB and defense in four straight games. Unless the defense continues what they started Thursday.

TEX · 10-19-2019, 10:59 AM

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You're saying you can't see a scenario where Moore drops 3 of 4 and Mahomes loses in New England and Chicago? That's 9-7.

And what if the Chargers get healthy and get their shit together? Those games may not be gimmes.

Color me concerned when we're likely to have a disadvantage at QB and defense in four straight games. Unless the defense continues what they started Thursday.

Sure I can see that IF I look pretty far. I also see a not-so-good AFC West and I don't think any of the pseudo contenders will completely cash in on KC's misfortune. I've already explained how I think it goes for Oakland. I feel the same way about the Chargers, because that's who they are.

RaidersOftheCellar · 10-19-2019, 12:14 PM

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You're saying you can't see a scenario where Moore drops 3 of 4 and Mahomes loses in New England and Chicago? That's 9-7.

And what if the Chargers get healthy and get their shit together? Those games may not be gimmes.

Color me concerned when we're likely to have a disadvantage at QB and defense in four straight games. Unless the defense continues what they started Thursday.

It just seems like people here flip flop on a weekly basis. Last week the sky was falling. This week everyone's beating their chests and confident in the defense after beating a trash team. Kinda bizarre.

With all the injuries, we may not have a talent advantage in any of the next four games. Yet it's a unanimous feeling that they'll go at least 2-2.

People who normally have zero faith in Reid must suddenly have a lot of faith in Reid.

Chargem · 10-19-2019, 03:42 PM

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You're saying you can't see a scenario where Moore drops 3 of 4 and Mahomes loses in New England and Chicago? That's 9-7.

And what if the Chargers get healthy and get their shit together? Those games may not be gimmes.

Color me concerned when we're likely to have a disadvantage at QB and defense in four straight games. Unless the defense continues what they started Thursday.

Either the Chargers are shit and both the Chiefs and Raiders should have gimmies, or they get it together and are tough games for both teams. If the Chargers are tough then that's only 8 wins for the Raiders, you can't have it both ways.

TEX · 10-19-2019, 03:48 PM

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Either the Chargers are shit and both the Chiefs and Raiders should have gimmies, or they get it together and are tough games for both teams. If the Chargers are tough then that's only 8 wins for the Raiders, you can't have it both ways.

I still think it comes down to the Chiefs & Bolts when all is said and done. It's a LONG season.

If Mahomes would have not gotten injured though, the Chiefs would have run away with it.

Mama Hip Rockets · 10-19-2019, 08:12 PM

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I can envision a scenario where KC finishes 8-8 or 9-7

The Kansas City Chiefs are not finishing 8 and 8, you delusional jackwagon.

**alanm** · 10-19-2019, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

I know people here get off on being sophomoric and all, but what's so controversial about this?

Last week the narrative was "Mahomes has no help--we suck! We won't make da playoffs, worst D in NFL history!!"

Now we're not worried about losing him for four games? No one's worried about the defense anymore? All is fixed? Because...they put Flacco on the ground?

The only thing being suggested here is that a semi-decent Oakland might be able to beat some shitbags on their schedule. Again, they don't have to beat a single good team to finish 10-6.

Yeah.. It is all kind of silly isn't it?

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RaidersOftheCellar MVP Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Lawrence, KS Casino cash: $2880400	I know people here get off on being sophomoric and all, but what's so controversial about this? Last week the narrative was "Mahomes has no help--we suck! We won't make da playoffs, worst D in NFL history!!" Now we're not worried about losing him for four games? No one's worried about the defense anymore? All is fixed? Because...they put Flacco on the ground? The only thing being suggested here is that a semi-decent Oakland might be able to beat some shitbags on their schedule. Again, they don't have to beat a single good team to finish 10-6.
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