Forget Peterson and Ramsey

[O.city]

As much as I like Ramsey, it just doesn't make sense.

You're talking 2 first rounders and a massive deal. Probably wise to let someone else do that if you're plan is to keep Chris Jones.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by O.city

As much as I like Ramsey, it just doesn't make sense.

You're talking 2 first rounders and a massive deal. Probably wise to let someone else do that if you're plan is to keep Chris Jones.

I could make the argument finding a top of the line CB is much harder than finding DL in todays game.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I could make the argument finding a top of the line CB is much harder than finding DL in todays game.

Then I'd counter that top of the line Cb isn't as necessary because of the rules of the league and you can't really be that aggressive back there anymore.

So having a DL that can be dominant against the pass always takes precedence

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by O.city

Then I'd counter that top of the line Cb isn't as necessary because of the rules of the league and you can't really be that aggressive back there anymore.

So having a DL that can be dominant against the pass always takes precedence

Not when your main competition to get to a Super Bowl completely and utterly neutralizes your pass rush.

You need a lock down CB to beat New England...period.

[oldman]

Originally Posted by Jerm

You need a lock down CB to beat New England...period.

So does NE need a lock down CB to beat Kansas City? Face it, NE gets 6 almost sure wins a year. Until that changes, you need to worry about beating the other 30 teams that don't have Brady. Two 1's and a massive contract is too much to pay for Ramsey.

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by oldman

So does NE need a lock down CB to beat Kansas City? Face it, NE gets 6 almost sure wins a year. Until that changes, you need to worry about beating the other 30 teams that don't have Brady. Two 1's and a massive contract is too much to pay for Ramsey.

They have one in Gilmore....they have an elite secondary.

They've built back to front and keep winning Super Bowls so you tell me....

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by oldman

So does NE need a lock down CB to beat Kansas City? Face it, NE gets 6 almost sure wins a year. Until that changes, you need to worry about beating the other 30 teams that don't have Brady. Two 1's and a massive contract is too much to pay for Ramsey.

They already got one......

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by O.city

Then I'd counter that top of the line Cb isn't as necessary because of the rules of the league and you can't really be that aggressive back there anymore.

So having a DL that can be dominant against the pass always takes precedence

How dominant can you be when everyone's scheme is to throw the ball in 2 seconds?

Look at how NE is built, there is some argument that building back to front is smarter for today's rules and schemes.

[St. Patty's Fire]

Originally Posted by Mecca

How dominant can you be when everyone's scheme is to throw the ball in 2 seconds?

Look at how NE is built, there is some argument that building back to front is smarter for today's rules and schemes.

Ya NE has like 0 names at all on their DL and are absolutely dominant

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Jerm

Not when your main competition to get to a Super Bowl completely and utterly neutralizes your pass rush.

You need a lock down CB to beat New England...period.

Originally Posted by Mecca

How dominant can you be when everyone's scheme is to throw the ball in 2 seconds?

Look at how NE is built, there is some argument that building back to front is smarter for today's rules and schemes.

It's not one or the other with NE. You build the back end up, they're gonna mash you with the run. Vice versa etc etc.

It'll take a good overall defense everywhere to beat them. Cover and make Brady hold onto it and stop the run.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by O.city

It's not one or the other with NE. You build the back end up, they're gonna mash you with the run. Vice versa etc etc.

It'll take a good overall defense everywhere to beat them. Cover and make Brady hold onto it and stop the run.

I can build a front of gap sound solid players that probably cost less than Frank Clark by himself.

[St. Patty's Fire]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I could make the argument finding a top of the line CB is much harder than finding DL in todays game.

I would also argue that a good Cb is just flat out more valuable than a good Dl

[FAH-Q]

Originally Posted by O.city

As much as I like Ramsey, it just doesn't make sense.

You're talking 2 first rounders and a massive deal. Probably wise to let someone else do that if you're plan is to keep Chris Jones.

I get the Ramsey deal may not make sense financially, but is there any verification they fully intend on keeping Jones and signing him to a massive deal? If he somehow matches last year's production, that's a huge contract we'd end up giving for another defensive linemen when our overall depth at CB, especially after this year, is almost nonexistent. I almost feel like they intend on franchising Jones and using him as trade bait, sort of like Seattle did with Clark.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by FAH-Q

I get the Ramsey deal may not make sense financially, but is there any verification they fully intend on keeping Jones and signing him to a massive deal? If he somehow matches last year's production, that's a huge contract we'd end up giving for another defensive linemen when our overall depth at CB, especially after this year, is almost nonexistent. I almost feel like they intend on franchising Jones and using him as trade bait, sort of like Seattle did with Clark.

If that's what they wanna do, sure.

But Terez seems to insinuate they wanna pay Jones.