Request: let's not make this about one play

[Indian Chief]

The other guys are professionals as well, and so if someone straight up beats you on a play or you get out coached, then you tip your hat. When you fail to do something as simple as line up properly, that's on you. It 100% does not involve anyone else in the game. It isn't even like he jumped offsides on a hard count when you could say, "well Brady made a great play." Dee Ford did something so stupid and so inexcusable that he does not get a pass.

[Ron Swanson]

Originally Posted by Indian Chief

The other guys are professionals as well, and so if someone straight up beats you on a play or you get out coached, then you tip your hat. When you fail to do something as simple as line up properly, that's on you. It 100% does not involve anyone else in the game. It isn't even like he jumped offsides on a hard count when you could say, "well Brady made a great play." Dee Ford did something so stupid and so inexcusable that he does not get a pass.

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[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Indian Chief

The other guys are professionals as well, and so if someone straight up beats you on a play or you get out coached, then you tip your hat. When you fail to do something as simple as line up properly, that's on you. It 100% does not involve anyone else in the game. It isn't even like he jumped offsides on a hard count when you could say, "well Brady made a great play." Dee Ford did something so stupid and so inexcusable that he does not get a pass.

1 player with just 1 play, you want to lay the blame on 1 play, sure it was a boneheaded play.

But so was missing a wide open Williams in the 1st half for a TD. That's 6, 7 pts and Ford is not the topic. Everybody is happy saying how great this team is, yadda yadda yadda.

What about the sack Pat took after that missed Williams play, takes us out of FG range. Sure Andy could have went for it. But we make that 3 pts, Ford's play is irrelevant.

What if Brady doesn't throw that Red Zone INT, we lose by more points! Yadda Yadda Yadda....

Damn the " what if " game sure is big when you have 100 + snaps in a game!

[Ron Swanson]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

1 player with just 1 play, you want to lay the blame on 1 play, sure it was a boneheaded play.

But so was missing a wide open Williams in the 1st half for a TD. That's 6, 7 pts and Ford is not the topic. Everybody is happy saying how great this team is, yadda yadda yadda.

What about the sack Pat took after that missed Williams play, takes us out of FG range. Sure Andy could have went for it. But we make that 3 pts, Ford's play is irrelevant.

What if Brady doesn't throw that Red Zone INT, we lose by more points! Yadda Yadda Yadda....

Damn the " what if " game sure is big when you have 100 + snaps in a game!

Those are all examples of live play, not lining up wrong, big difference.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

Those are all examples of live play, not lining up wrong, big difference.

Score 7 pts the 1st half, that boneheaded play was just 5 yards.

OL block the 1st half like men instead of boys, we could of had more points.

1 mistake is never a reason you lose a game. Missed FG's suck, they can get a kicker cut by a team but the offense not getting TD's is just as much an issue.

You win as a team and lose as a team.

Grow up and understand the game!

[Ron Swanson]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

Score 7 pts the 1st half, that boneheaded play was just 5 yards.

OL block the 1st half like men instead of boys, we could of had more points.

1 mistake is never a reason you lose a game. Missed FG's suck, they can get a kicker cut by a team but the offense not getting TD's is just as much an issue.

You win as a team and lose as a team.

Grow up and understand the game!

"Just 5 yards" and you are telling me to understand the game? LOL

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

"Just 5 yards" and you are telling me to understand the game? LOL

Yep, I see you are on a roll!

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

1 player with just 1 play, you want to lay the blame on 1 play, sure it was a boneheaded play.

But so was missing a wide open Williams in the 1st half for a TD. That's 6, 7 pts and Ford is not the topic. Everybody is happy saying how great this team is, yadda yadda yadda.

What about the sack Pat took after that missed Williams play, takes us out of FG range. Sure Andy could have went for it. But we make that 3 pts, Ford's play is irrelevant.

What if Brady doesn't throw that Red Zone INT, we lose by more points! Yadda Yadda Yadda....

Damn the " what if " game sure is big when you have 100 + snaps in a game!

Ya ya. Ford's play is irrelevant if X Y or Z happened.

On the same token X Y and Z weren't failures in understanding a basic principle of the game and had Dee Ford paid attention on day 1 in pee wee X Y and Z would have been irrelevant.

[Indian Chief]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

1 player with just 1 play, you want to lay the blame on 1 play, sure it was a boneheaded play.

But so was missing a wide open Williams in the 1st half for a TD. That's 6, 7 pts and Ford is not the topic. Everybody is happy saying how great this team is, yadda yadda yadda.

What about the sack Pat took after that missed Williams play, takes us out of FG range. Sure Andy could have went for it. But we make that 3 pts, Ford's play is irrelevant.

What if Brady doesn't throw that Red Zone INT, we lose by more points! Yadda Yadda Yadda....

Damn the " what if " game sure is big when you have 100 + snaps in a game!

People on this site love to quote you and then completely ignore everything you said and argue something entirely different.

Originally Posted by Indian Chief

The other guys are professionals as well, and so if someone straight up beats you on a play or you get out coached, then you tip your hat. When you fail to do something as simple as line up properly, that's on you. It 100% does not involve anyone else in the game. It isn't even like he jumped offsides on a hard count when you could say, "well Brady made a great play." Dee Ford did something so stupid and so inexcusable that he does not get a pass.

You did not refute ANYTHING I said. Not one thing. Everything I said is 100% accurate. I never said I was laying the blame on one play. I said he doesn't get a pass. There were many other screw ups. But no one has a time machine and we can't change the past. The only thing we know for sure is that at that point in the game, Dee Ford made a completely unforced error. He beat himself and his team. Mahomes overthrew a few balls with guys in his face. Hill made a dumb mistake on the punt return. But at least those were mistakes in the heat of the moment with guys trying to make a play. Dee Ford managed to screw up standing there. That's all. For the record, I didn't play the "what if" game. You did. Ford screwed up. I didn't say to kick him off the team.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Indian Chief

People on this site love to quote you and then completely ignore everything you said and argue something entirely different.



You did not refute ANYTHING I said. Not one thing. Everything I said is 100% accurate. I never said I was laying the blame on one play. I said he doesn't get a pass. There were many other screw ups. But no one has a time machine and we can't change the past. The only thing we know for sure is that at that point in the game, Dee Ford made a completely unforced error. He beat himself and his team. Mahomes overthrew a few balls with guys in his face. Hill made a dumb mistake on the punt return. But at least those were mistakes in the heat of the moment with guys trying to make a play. Dee Ford managed to screw up standing there. That's all. For the record, I didn't play the "what if" game. You did. Ford screwed up. I didn't say to kick him off the team.

I'm not saying Ford wasn't at fault for the penalty! He was 100 % at fault, but it's " just 1 play "! We left way too many pts out there we didn't get.

Played like crap the whole 1st half!

That's a pretty good reason we lost!

Our defense gave up too many points! That's a good reason !

As I have said many times, in a game that has 80 to 120 plays, snaps, etc, you can not put the blame on just 1 play !