Then & Now...Week 6 vs. AFCCG

[RobertWeathers]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

They should have though. Did you look at the graphic?

Over the last half of the season they played the following passing offenses (in terms of efficiency): #2, #8, #12, #16, and then #25, #27, #31, and #28 twice.

I mean for all of the talk about how terrible the Chiefs are, they've played an INFINITELY tougher 2nd half schedule than the Patriots. There isn't ANY green at all since the Rams game.

Yes I did.

My only point is the pass D for NE has much improved over the year

Note I didn't say anything about the Chiefs D. Just the NEP.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by RobertWeathers

Yes I did.

My only point is the pass D for NE has much improved over the year

Note I didn't say anything about the Chiefs D. Just the NEP.

Right but you still haven't acknowledged that the pass D improved right in line with the weakness of their opponents' passing offenses.

Their pass defense HAD to improve - they feasted on the Bills, Jets, Titans, and Dolphins.

[RobertWeathers]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Right but you still haven't acknowledged that the pass D improved right in line with the weakness of their opponents' passing offenses.

Their pass defense HAD to improve - they feasted on the Bills, Jets, Titans, and Dolphins.

I'm not playing this game. If you want to come out and say the Pats' pass D is overrated feel free. You won't hurt my feelings.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by RobertWeathers

I'm not playing this game. If you want to come out and say the Pats' pass D is overrated feel free. You won't hurt my feelings.

I didn't come out and say they're overrated because they're not.

They've played commensurate to their level of competition.

If you want to come out and say the Pats defense is GOOD, be my guest. You won't hurt my feelings.

But you'd be wrong.

[RobertWeathers]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I didn't come out and say they're overrated because they're not.

They've played commensurate to their level of competition.

If you want to come out and say the Pats defense is GOOD, be my guest. You won't hurt my feelings.

But you'd be wrong.

Ha

By the same criteria you have a similar assessment of the Chiefs' defense?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by RobertWeathers

Ha

By the same criteria you have a similar assessment of the Chiefs' defense?

Certainly. The Chiefs defense is flat out BAD against the run. Almost regardless of opponent. Like the Patriots, the Chiefs pass defense has gotten better over the last quarter of the season.

That being said, over the last half of the season, the level of competition (in terms of pass efficiency of the opposing offenses) isn't close to comparable. The Patriots have played against 4 of the 5 worst passing offenses in the league. Kansas City hasn't played ANYBODY below #17.

[RobertWeathers]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Certainly. The Chiefs defense is flat out BAD against the run. Almost regardless of opponent. Like the Patriots, the Chiefs pass defense has gotten better over the last quarter of the season.

That being said, over the last half of the season, the level of competition (in terms of pass efficiency of the opposing offenses) isn't close to comparable. The Patriots have played against 4 of the 5 worst passing offenses in the league. Kansas City hasn't played ANYBODY below #17.

I think you are getting caught up in rankings and losing sight of the context. I look at it this way. Rivers, Watson, Luck, Rodgers, Cousins, Roeth all had very average games against us and the shitbags we lost too played well. I thought we did job on Mahomes for a while until we went to a freaking zone D.

Keep in mind I don't give a rats ass about yards and QB rating. It's 3rd down conversations and comp %.