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01-23-2018, 09:19 PM | #424 |
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Geez, I had JUST gotten over the fact that Paramount wasn't going to do what I wanted them to do and continue the story off after the TNG-DS9-VOY events. Then I take a trip down DS9 lane and I go back to thinking these execs are butt****ing morons for not continuing the adventure with those same familiar characters and perhaps an occasional actor/character cameo or two.
It'd be so easy to "start fresh" for the casual viewer yet throw enough fodder out there for previous fans. There's just not enough in Discovery right now to give me that same Star Trek boner. That being said, while I always though the mirror universe shit was overrated, after last week, I'm okay with continuing down this path. It appears they could possibly turn this into an entire series. Again, not what I wanted, but it's acceptable. |
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I know I've shared these before, but still...
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01-23-2018, 09:30 PM | #427 |
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And yes... this is where my avatar comes from. I have no idea who the original artist is of the horse saxophone. I don't think it's the creator of these edits (gazorra) but it might be.
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01-23-2018, 09:33 PM | #428 |
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I have not. I may have to break my rule of not paying attention to stuff that's not canon, particularly since Paramount seems to think anything and everything remotely connected to the TNG-DS9-VOY era is a huge waste of time on their part. Pretty sad that ****ing everything has to be related to Kirk or set as a prequel, but whatever.
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01-24-2018, 09:16 AM | #432 |
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The entire first season is set in a mirror universe?
Christ. $50 says that wasn't their original direction but the way the writers went after they got feedback from the first episodes. |
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I haven't watched this show yet, but I do occasionally lurk on online discussion of it. Seeing Frakes' comment about "Roddenberry's vision" reminded me of a comment someone made about Mirror Lorca.
Now when Roddenberry created TNG he wanted there to be zero conflict amongst the main characters. Humans had evolved beyond almost all of their pettiness. It reached a point in one of the episodes (The Neutral Zone season 1) that one of the characters is shocked, shocked to find out that humans once feared dying. This commentator made the point that the writers are damaging the character because the thing that makes him interesting - his questionable morality - is simply because he's from the Mirror Universe and not because he is a complex character with depth. Basically, it would be like saying that Sisko did what he did in In the Pale Moonlight was because he was from the Mirror Universe instead of being a good man who had to do an evil thing for the greater good. Though, come to think of it, Sisko did suddenly grow a goatee... Last edited by Mennonite; 01-24-2018 at 07:58 PM.. |
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