4/28/2015 Final First Round Mock

[kccrow]

Need to update given some recent events. Also, no trade predictions.

[kccrow]

01. Jameis Winston - QB - Florida State
02. Marcus Mariota - QB - Oregon
03. Amari Cooper - WR - Alabama
04. Leonard Williams - DE/DT - Southern California
05. Dante Fowler, Jr. - DE/OLB - Florida
06. Vic Beasley - DE/OLB - Clemson
07. Kevin White - WR - West Virginia
08. Alvin Dupree - DE/OLB - Kentucky
09. Landon Collins - SS - Alabama
10. Brandon Scherff - OT - Iowa
11. Trae Waynes - CB - Michigan State
12. Danny Shelton - DT - Washington
13. Kevin Johnson - CB - Wake Forest
14. DeVante Parker - WR - Louisville
15. Dorial Green-Beckham - WR - Missouri
16. Arik Armstead - DE/DT - Oregon

[kccrow]

17. Melvin Gordon - RB - Wisconsin
18. Phillip Dorsett - WR - Miami
19. Randy Gregory - DE/OLB - Nebraska
20. Byron Jones - CB - Connecticut
21. Malcolm Brown - DT - Texas
22. Marcus Peters - CB - Washington
23. La'el Collins - OT - Louisiana State
24. Todd Gurley - RB - Georgia
25. Andrus Peat - OT - Stanford
26. Breshad Perriman - WR - Central Florida
27. Eddie Goldman - DT - Florida State
28. Ereck Flowers - OT - Miami
29. Cameron Erving - OC/OT - Florida State
30. Eric Rowe - CB/FS - Utah
31. Jaelen Strong - WR - Arizona State
32. Jalen Collins - CB - Louisiana State

[Bowser]

I have no problem with Dorsett. How do you rate him versus a guy like Agholor?

And DGB to the 49ers? Interesting, especially considering they just gave up on Crabtree...

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Bowser

I have no problem with Dorsett. How do you rate him versus a guy like Agholor?

And DGB to the 49ers? Interesting, especially considering they just gave up on Crabtree...

I have him rated higher than Agholor. Not really comparable receivers. I like Agholor. I think he can fix a couple things and have a better ceiling than advertised. Here's my draft notes on Agholor:

Good straight-line speed, good agility.
Good open field running ability, picks up alot of YAC.
Works well back to his quarterback
Very average run blocker.
Good sink and stop on hitch, good cut and go on slant
Good hands catcher but baskets some throws.
No unnecessary "high pointing" - stride receiver.
Secures ball to outside arm properly.

Bad drop step off the line that slows him down from a football perspective. Physical press dbs will take advantage.
Not as fast on tape as he is on the track on 9s, doesn't generate deep separation.
Concentration drops against Stanford
Ramps down on in/out cuts rather than fluid transition

runs alot of quick hitches and short swing and screen routes
alot of motion and slot looks
didn't see any press coverage in any of the 5 games I watched
good qb throwing to him
ran pro-style, wco

good punt and kick returner

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I have him rated higher than Agholor. Not really comparable receivers. I like Agholor. I think he can fix a couple things and have a better ceiling than advertised. Here's my draft notes on Agholor:

Good straight-line speed, good agility.
Good open field running ability, picks up alot of YAC.
Works well back to his quarterback
Very average run blocker.
Good sink and stop on hitch, good cut and go on slant
Good hands catcher but baskets some throws.
No unnecessary "high pointing" - stride receiver.
Secures ball to outside arm properly.

Bad drop step off the line that slows him down from a football perspective. Physical press dbs will take advantage.
Not as fast on tape as he is on the track on 9s, doesn't generate deep separation.
Concentration drops against Stanford
Ramps down on in/out cuts rather than fluid transition

runs alot of quick hitches and short swing and screen routes
alot of motion and slot looks
didn't see any press coverage in any of the 5 games I watched
good qb throwing to him
ran pro-style, wco

good punt and kick returner

I see him in a very similar light, but came to the conclusion that he is still likely a slot only receiver. Against Stanford, the only game I watched where corners got anywhere close to press on him, the back him off the LOS, put him in motion and set him up in bunch formations to create space for him to operate in. Based on that, I am concluding that against NFL competition, he will have difficulty beating press coverage. Additionally, his ability to get separation over the top, even against college DBs is a strike against him. Based on these observations, I have him pegged in the slot.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I have him rated higher than Agholor. Not really comparable receivers. I like Agholor. I think he can fix a couple things and have a better ceiling than advertised. Here's my draft notes on Agholor:

DGB won't go before #40 and you're crazy if you think that DGB is more accomplished than Agholor, who isn't even in your first round.

[Willie Lanier]

I'd be pissed if we go dorsett (who I genuinely like as a player) over peters, who could be a legitimate shutdown corner

[saphojunkie]

Yeah, man... I'm with Dane. DGB is gonna fall to the mid-late 2nd round and Agholor will be the 4th or 5th WR off the board along with Perriman.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

DGB won't go before #40 and you're crazy if you think that DGB is more accomplished than Agholor, who isn't even in your first round.

I don't even like DGB as a prospect at all if you've been paying attention man. I wouldn't even draft him. This is a projection. I have a feeling some idiot team is going to take a flier on DGB in round 1, I'm just hoping it isn't KC.

[CleveSteve]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I don't even like DGB as a prospect at all

What?! I mean... what?!?!!

Don't want to touch him because of off-the-field stuff, sure... but there are very few in the universe who can do what he did against Kentucky.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by CleveSteve

What?! I mean... what?!?!!

Don't want to touch him because of off-the-field stuff, sure... but there are very few in the universe who can do what he did against Kentucky.

Absolute shitty route runner, might be the worst in this class. NFL corners are going to be in his shit all day long until he learns to run them correctly.

When he realizes a 5'10" NFL CB with a 40" vertical can get up as high as he can at 6'5" with a 33" vertical, and he no longer has that height advantage, he's going to have to learn routes.

When he realizes that most corners in the NFL run sub 4.5 in the 40 and sub 7 in the 3-cone, he's going to have to learn routes.

See, that size thing he had going on in college isn't going to carry him in the pros, he has to be more than that.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Absolute shitty route runner, might be the worst in this class. NFL corners are going to be in his shit all day long until he learns to run them correctly.

When he realizes a 5'10" NFL CB with a 40" vertical can get up as high as he can at 6'5" with a 33" vertical, and he no longer has that height advantage, he's going to have to learn routes.

When he realizes that most corners in the NFL run sub 4.5 in the 40 and sub 7 in the 3-cone, he's going to have to learn routes.

See, that size thing he had going on in college isn't going to carry him in the pros, he has to be more than that.

*cough*jonbaldwin*cough*