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Old 12-21-2006, 09:45 AM  
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I'm Glad LJ Is Calling Out Solari & Edwards

We all have watched the run, run, Pass offense the last 3 weeks. We have watched it lose. I don't blame LJ. I wouldn't want to continue running into a 9 man front over and over again for 1 and 2 yard gains only to end up punting the ball away.

Edwards says it is because we are put in kown situations as to why we haven't scored points. WELL NO SHIT HERM!!! Why do you think we are always in said "known downs" Herm?


Someone needs to take Solari to the woodshed.
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Old 12-21-2006, 09:51 AM   #2
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Someone needs to take Solari to the woodshed.
Followed by Herm as well..

This looks so much like last years Jets offense it isnt even funny...

You put the Chiefs in Green and people would do a double take.

Nothing has changed or will change with Herm, what you see on the field this year is what you will see the next 3...

Just ask any Jets fan.
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Old 12-21-2006, 09:58 AM   #3
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:00 AM   #4
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Followed by Herm as well..

This looks so much like last years Jets offense it isnt even funny...

You put the Chiefs in Green and people would do a double take.

Nothing has changed or will change with Herm, what you see on the field this year is what you will see the next 3...

Just ask any Jets fan.

I disagree. Edwards got the Jets to the playoffs more than DV ever got us there. Namely with strong D and I liek that approach.

Herm doesn't call the offensive plays. I only place some blam on him cause he is the head coach. I place most of the blame squarely on the shoulders of the OC. He doesn't know how to call a game.
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:02 AM   #5
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Well Edwards says LJ's comments were taken out of context...
Hey Coach.......there is video tape. We have all seen it.
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:02 AM   #6
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I also like the fact that he's calling out Herm's dumbass "we'll get 'em next week" mentality. I think it's pretty telling that Preacher Herm may already be losing his team after one year. I think there's a good chance they totally quit on him next year, which may give us the truly shitty year we need to draft a player who could help turn around a franchise.
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I disagree. Edwards got the Jets to the playoffs more than DV ever got us there. Namely with strong D and I liek that approach.

Herm doesn't call the offensive plays. I only place some blam on him cause he is the head coach. I place most of the blame squarely on the shoulders of the OC. He doesn't know how to call a game.
Herm got the Jets to the playoffs with Bill Parcells' players and a damned easy division.
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:05 AM   #8
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Herm got the Jets to the playoffs with Bill Parcells' players and a damned easy division.

Whatever it took. He got them there. They bought into his philosophy.

So I guess your point is it's our players then?
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:08 AM   #9
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Herm got the Jets to the playoffs with Bill Parcells' players and a damned easy division.
This notion has been blown up before.

It's not like Herm isn't an upgrade. The one and only time this team made the playoffs our division blew chunks.
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Whatever it took. He got them there. They bought into his philosophy.

So I guess your point is it's our players then?
You're way off.

And his star player is already questioning his philosophy.

It's easy to like a boss who kisses your ass. But that doesn't mean that he can hold your respect for very long.

My point is that I don't think Herm knows how to build a complete team. Those Jet teams aren't and weren't exactly defensive juggernauts after he had his prints on them

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Herm can build you a mediocre defense. It's better than horrible, but he'll also get you a pathetic offense.
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:15 AM   #13
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You're way off.

And his star player is already questioning his philosophy.

It's easy to like a boss who kisses your ass. But that doesn't mean that he can hold your respect for very long.

My point is that I don't think Herm knows how to build a complete team. Those Jet teams aren't and weren't exactly defensive juggernauts after he had his prints on them

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Herm can build you a mediocre defense. It's better than horrible, but he'll also get you a pathetic offense.

If I am way off then how did he get to the playoffs? You siad it was becasue of the players. So then that would mean you are blaming ourplayers.

So quit flip lfopping tard. How did he coach players to playoffs 3 seasons? I know because they were Parcel's picks right? Which means you are blaming our players.

Can't have it both ways there spunky.
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If I am way off then how did he get to the playoffs? You siad it was becasue of the players. So then that would mean you are blaming ourplayers.

So quit flip lfopping tard. How did he coach players to playoffs 3 seasons? I know because they were Parcel's picks right? Which means you are blaming our players.

Can't have it both ways there spunky.
I'm not flip-flopping you dumb motherfucker, I'm pointing out the clearly obvious fact (backed up with stats) that Herm's coaching philosophy doesn't work.

Furthermore, you seem to be completely unable to put 2 and 2 together, so I'm going to help your dumb ass out one more time

He made it because of Parcells' players and the crap division he played in. The players he inherited were good enough to overcome the ineffectiveness of his coaching, but not by much. He also squeaked in. 10-6, 9-7, 10-6. You act like he built a dynasty.

Why is it that Herm can never seem to build a good D or O, as is proven by his tenure in NY?? If he were able to, shouldn't there have been marked improvement as the years progressed, rather than a standstill?

Why is making the playoffs with a 9-7 squad so damned impressive? It's not, it's lucky. We had a far better team last year than any of those teams Herm ever had, but didn't make the playoffs.

If some jackfucknut like Mike Tice coaches the Vikings to the playoffs at 8-8, does that mean he did better than a Dick Vermeil who coached a team to 10-6 in a different conference?
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I'm not flip-flopping you dumb motherfucker, I'm pointing out the clearly obvious fact (backed up with stats) that Herm's coaching philosophy doesn't work.

Furthermore, you seem to be completely unable to put 2 and 2 together, so I'm going to help your dumb ass out one more time

He made it because of Parcells' players and the crap division he played in. The players he inherited were good enough to overcome the ineffectiveness of his coaching, but not by much. He also squeaked in. 10-6, 9-7, 10-6. You act like he built a dynasty.

Why is it that Herm can never seem to build a good D or O, as is proven by his tenure in NY?? If he were able to, shouldn't there have been marked improvement as the years progressed, rather than a standstill?

Why is making the playoffs with a 9-7 squad so damned impressive? It's not, it's lucky. We had a far better team last year than any of those teams Herm ever had, but didn't make the playoffs.

If some jackfucknut like Mike Tice coaches the Vikings to the playoffs at 8-8, does that mean he did better than a Dick Vermeil who coached a team to 10-6 in a different conference?

Translation: He made it to the playoffs with Parcels' players so then it is our players' fault.

Why is making the playoffs with 9-7 squad impressive? Cause we couldn't even do it with 10-6. We couldn;t do it with the #1 offense year after year.

So your idiotic argument is that either Herm was just a figurehead and the players coached themsleves or the players were so good cause Parcels picked them they were capable of executing Herm's philosphy?

10-6 is a very good record in the NFL. So you can say squeaked or whatever you want the fact is he got to the playoffs more than we did with a worse offense.

You can sit there and spin it anyway you wish tard the facts remain that he had more playoff success than DV did with our high powered offense.

And you flip flop more than John Kerry
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