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Bump · 02-02-2013, 08:20 PM

I thought Russel Wilson deserved it more. 26-10 and a playoff win AND he wasn't just given the starting job like the top 2 picks. He had to earn it against a lot of odds since they just gave Flynn a contract and he was expected to start.

Chiefnj2 · 02-02-2013, 08:28 PM

Wilson deserved it.

Fritz88 · 02-02-2013, 08:27 PM

It should have been Wilson.

Hammock Parties · 02-02-2013, 08:31 PM

Turnovers are irrelevant if they don't result in losses.

Luck had no running game and a pretty bad defense. RGIII had a LOT more help.

Luck will be a better QB in the long run and IMO, was last year, too.

4,600 yards and 28 TD is a **** ton of production for a rookie QB.

houstonwhodat · 02-02-2013, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus

Turnovers are irrelevant if they don't result in losses.

Luck had no running game and a pretty bad defense. RGIII had a LOT more help.

Luck will be a better QB in the long run and IMO, was last year, too.

4,600 yards and 28 TD is a **** ton of production for a rookie QB.

Won't matter.

Luck will have a much better career when all said and done.

He's a pocket passer not an "athletic" qb.

hahaha

Skyy God · 02-02-2013, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by houstonwhodat

Won't matter.

Luck will have a much better career when all said and done.

He's a pocket passer not an "athletic" qb.

hahaha

Award wasn't for best expected career, yo.

houstonwhodat · 02-02-2013, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson

Award wasn't for best expected career, yo.

I hear ya.

Just seems like the media picks someone and puts all their PR behind it.

GoChargers · 02-03-2013, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by houstonwhodat

Just seems like the media picks someone and puts all their PR behind it.

And they had been pimping Luck since his first day at Stanford practically. They finally had to change their tune once RG3 and Wilson started outplaying Luck in the NFL.

GoChargers · 02-02-2013, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus

Turnovers are irrelevant if they don't result in losses.

I don't buy the Colts being nearly as good as their record, though. They just barely eked out most of their wins. I think they'll regress to the mean next year and have a worse record.

Furthermore, turnovers aren't irrelevant. If Luck doesn't cut back on them, his progress as a pro QB will be limited and it WILL result in losses.

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Luck had no running game and a pretty bad defense. RGIII had a LOT more help.

RG3 had a terrible secondary and a recieving core who couldn't stay healthy. If anything, Wilson was the one with lots of help.

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Luck will be a better QB in the long run

Not only do we not really know this yet, the future is also irrelevant in the context of this award.

Chiefshrink · 02-02-2013, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus

Turnovers are irrelevant if they don't result in losses.

Luck had no running game and a pretty bad defense. RGIII had a LOT more help.

Luck will be a better QB in the long run and IMO, was last year, too.

4,600 yards and 28 TD is a **** ton of production for a rookie QB.

The question you have to ask yourself is whose team would have had a worse record without them at QB.

I say the Colts hands down. Without Luck they are picking right behind us in this years draft. That is how good Luck is and will be even better in the future

Three7s · 02-02-2013, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus

Turnovers are irrelevant if they don't result in losses.

Luck had no running game and a pretty bad defense. RGIII had a LOT more help.

Luck will be a better QB in the long run and IMO, was last year, too.

4,600 yards and 28 TD is a **** ton of production for a rookie QB.

I'll bite.

23/18 TD ratio, 54% completion ratio, including not even half of his passes completed against the Chiefs.

Yes, he was good, especially seeing as the running game was terrible, but he still didn't complete nearly enough of his passes and threw way to many INTs. The Colts were that usual mediocre team that got in and got blasted in the playoffs.

RGIII deserved it more than Luck, simple as that. He was a dynamic player that made the whole offense better.

ThaVirus · 02-02-2013, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

No kidding. Talk about attention whoring.

Yes. It was my life mission to be known as the guy that was the first to tell Chiefsplanet that RGIII won Offensive ROTY.

YOU GUYS GOT ME ALL FIGURED OUT.

**Easy 6** · 02-02-2013, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus

Turnovers are irrelevant if they don't result in losses.

Luck had no running game and a pretty bad defense. RGIII had a LOT more help.

Luck will be a better QB in the long run and IMO, was last year, too.

4,600 yards and 28 TD is a **** ton of production for a rookie QB.

All True.

GoChargers · 02-02-2013, 08:34 PM

LOL at the idea of the media being biased against Luck. Dude was slurped and hyped by the media like he already had multiple MVP's and a couple Super Bowl rings before he even left Stanford, he was gonna be the new Peyton, etc. Then he got outshined and outplayed by RG3 and Wilson once it was time to start proving it on the field. Sorry, but it wasn't bias that prevented Luck from winning ROY.

milkman · 02-02-2013, 08:41 PM

Luck put up large portion of his numbers against prevent defenses.

To his credit, he produced in those situations, where others haven't.

But his rookie season wasn't as spectacular as most make it out to be.

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milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	Luck put up large portion of his numbers against prevent defenses. To his credit, he produced in those situations, where others haven't. But his rookie season wasn't as spectacular as most make it out to be. __________________
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