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Old 02-02-2013, 06:00 PM  
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:28 PM   #16
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:30 PM   #17
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RGIII - 4,015 total yards, 27 TD, 10 wins

Luck - 4,600 total yards, 28 TD, 11 wins

East-coast media: biased
You're kidding, right? You completely ignored Luck throwing as many picks as Mark ****ing Sanchez and putting up a worse QB rating.

RG3 is the better quarterback, IMO, and a completely deserving OROY.
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:31 PM   #18
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Turnovers are irrelevant if they don't result in losses.

Luck had no running game and a pretty bad defense. RGIII had a LOT more help.

Luck will be a better QB in the long run and IMO, was last year, too.

4,600 yards and 28 TD is a **** ton of production for a rookie QB.
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:34 PM   #19
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LOL at the idea of the media being biased against Luck. Dude was slurped and hyped by the media like he already had multiple MVP's and a couple Super Bowl rings before he even left Stanford, he was gonna be the new Peyton, etc. Then he got outshined and outplayed by RG3 and Wilson once it was time to start proving it on the field. Sorry, but it wasn't bias that prevented Luck from winning ROY.
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:34 PM   #20
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Turnovers are irrelevant if they don't result in losses.

Luck had no running game and a pretty bad defense. RGIII had a LOT more help.

Luck will be a better QB in the long run and IMO, was last year, too.

4,600 yards and 28 TD is a **** ton of production for a rookie QB.


Won't matter.

Luck will have a much better career when all said and done.

He's a pocket passer not an "athletic" qb.

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Old 02-02-2013, 07:41 PM   #21
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Luck put up large portion of his numbers against prevent defenses.

To his credit, he produced in those situations, where others haven't.

But his rookie season wasn't as spectacular as most make it out to be.
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:41 PM   #22
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Turnovers are irrelevant if they don't result in losses.
I don't buy the Colts being nearly as good as their record, though. They just barely eked out most of their wins. I think they'll regress to the mean next year and have a worse record.

Furthermore, turnovers aren't irrelevant. If Luck doesn't cut back on them, his progress as a pro QB will be limited and it WILL result in losses.

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Luck had no running game and a pretty bad defense. RGIII had a LOT more help.
RG3 had a terrible secondary and a recieving core who couldn't stay healthy. If anything, Wilson was the one with lots of help.

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Not only do we not really know this yet, the future is also irrelevant in the context of this award.
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:45 PM   #23
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but you can make a case for all 3. A remarkable year for the QB.
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:45 PM   #24
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I'm calling it now.

Russel Wilson will have more SB wins than either Luck or RGIII.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:00 PM   #25
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Luck threw for more yards than any rookie in the history of football. He led the league in game winning drives. The only three QBs with more completions of 25+ yards were Brees, Flacco and Manning. He dragged maybe the worst playoff team ever into the playoffs.

RGIII deserved this award just as much, he had the best numbers. He just needs to stay healthy. But I'd still take Luck over Griffin and the midget. If you gave Luck the Seahawks defense and Marshawn Lynch he might still be playing.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:03 PM   #26
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Won't matter.

Luck will have a much better career when all said and done.

He's a pocket passer not an "athletic" qb.

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Old 02-02-2013, 08:05 PM   #27
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Turnovers are irrelevant if they don't result in losses.

Luck had no running game and a pretty bad defense. RGIII had a LOT more help.

Luck will be a better QB in the long run and IMO, was last year, too.

4,600 yards and 28 TD is a **** ton of production for a rookie QB.
The question you have to ask yourself is whose team would have had a worse record without them at QB.

I say the Colts hands down. Without Luck they are picking right behind us in this years draft. That is how good Luck is and will be even better in the future
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:10 PM   #28
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But his rookie season wasn't as spectacular as most make it out to be.
The Colts are a 2-3 win team at best without Luck this last year irregardless of an easier schedule. That is how good Luck is and will be even more in the future.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:29 PM   #29
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I'm calling it now.

Russel Wilson will have more SB wins than either Luck or RGIII.
Eh, ya never know. The guys looks amazing don't get me wrong. But so do the other two.

A SB win(s) however depends so much more than just on that one player.
The team, front office, injuries, weather in a specific game a bad call.

I just know this, After watching the NFL for as long as I have, Marino should have won a SB, Elway should have won more sooner, Peyton should have more.
But they don't. Favre only has one, but has almost all the records. You just never know.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:36 PM   #30
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Turnovers are irrelevant if they don't result in losses.

Luck had no running game and a pretty bad defense. RGIII had a LOT more help.

Luck will be a better QB in the long run and IMO, was last year, too.

4,600 yards and 28 TD is a **** ton of production for a rookie QB.
I'll bite.

23/18 TD ratio, 54% completion ratio, including not even half of his passes completed against the Chiefs.

Yes, he was good, especially seeing as the running game was terrible, but he still didn't complete nearly enough of his passes and threw way to many INTs. The Colts were that usual mediocre team that got in and got blasted in the playoffs.

RGIII deserved it more than Luck, simple as that. He was a dynamic player that made the whole offense better.
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