Better Than Geno

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Now, to me, this is the comprehensive list of players I think are better than Geno, everything being equal (including positional value):

It's not equal. That's the problem.

You have a list of 13 players there. How many of them are generational talents like Eric Berry, Von Miller, or Calvin Johnson? If you're a team drafting at #1 overall and don't have a QB, the only remotely conceivable reason to pass on a QB is if everyone in the class is an abortion and you have a generational type of talent that ACTUALLY makes your team better.

Offensive linemen don't make our team better. In fact, I can argue that it will make our team WORSE at the beginning. Joeckel and Fisher are rookie LTs, who are going to be compared to a LT who gave up one sack all season long. That's a tall order to ask out of a rookie.

There isn't even a Mario Williams at the other position. There's no Ndamukong Suh. There's no beast that explodes off the film. Just a bunch of flaccid dicks that would normally get drafted between 5-20 in a draft class that had generational talents and QBs that everybody liked.

You can hate on the QBs in this class, but don't ****ing tell me any of those 13 players you listed are "must haves". That's what you need if you're drafting at #1 overall. So if you can't get one, roll the dice on the best QB available.

And from that point it becomes a debate about what Geno lacks in a #1 QB and if he can be coached up to improve on it to the necessary level. And I think with a guy like Andy Reid, yes, he absolutely CAN do that.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by SNR

It's not equal. That's the problem.

You have a list of 13 players there. How many of them are generational talents like Eric Berry, Von Miller, or Calvin Johnson?

I would say Joeckel, who has the ability to be a 12-year Pro Bowler. And I think Moore has potential to be.

Originally Posted by SNR

If you're a team drafting at #1 overall and don't have a QB, the only remotely conceivable reason to pass on a QB is if everyone in the class is an abortion and you have a generational type of talent that ACTUALLY makes your team better.

Offensive linemen don't make our team better. In fact, I can argue that it will make our team WORSE at the beginning. Joeckel and Fisher are rookie LTs, who are going to be compared to a LT who gave up one sack all season long. That's a tall order to ask out of a rookie.

All 100% fair points.

Originally Posted by SNR

There isn't even a Mario Williams at the other position. There's no Ndamukong Suh. There's no beast that explodes off the film. Just a bunch of flaccid dicks that would normally get drafted between 5-20 in a draft class that had generational talents and QBs that everybody liked.

To risk sounding like an internet meme, generational talents are generational.

Half of the drafts in our lifetime don't have them.

Originally Posted by SNR

You can hate on the QBs in this class, but don't ****ing tell me any of those 13 players you listed are "must haves".

I would say there's three -- Joeckel, Werner and Moore.

Originally Posted by SNR

And from that point it becomes a debate about what Geno lacks in a #1 QB and if he can be coached up to improve on it to the necessary level. And I think with a guy like Andy Reid, yes, he absolutely CAN do that.

Fair point.