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Old 11-22-2012, 03:38 PM   #1
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By the way... The last time you called me out for saying dumb shit was because I didn't hop on the bandwagon that we should hire a 60 year old offensive coordinator who just a year ago was pretty widely hated by educated steelers fans.
Even if that was totally accurate, whats your point?

Arians has a near perfect record with developing first round quarterbacks and has a backround in the Steelers system and is a OC under a guy that has ties to Baltimore.

The guy would be able to get a DC from either of those systems and develop our quarterback.

Not sure whats not to like...
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:06 PM   #2
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Even if that was totally accurate, whats your point?

Arians has a near perfect record with developing first round quarterbacks and has a backround in the Steelers system and is a OC under a guy that has ties to Baltimore.

The guy would be able to get a DC from either of those systems and develop our quarterback.

Not sure whats not to like...
My thread makes it clear. He may be a good positions coach, but no person should want a coach that coddled big Ben and his behavior. The Rooneys, the fans, and Tomlin wanted him fired for years. The only reason he kept his job is because his best friend, Ben, vouched for him. Even his teammates spoke out about how he favored ben.

He is the most overrated coordinator in the nfl. Apart from coddling Ben, he led one of the worst red zone offenses. Got his qbs clobbered. And never adjusted to situations like maybe deciding to run the ball when your qb plays on a broken ankle. Arians is a good positions coach whose genius is largely driven by coaching two unbelievably gifted qbs, and he is a players coach which I absolutely do not want.

There is a lot not to like. Again, post what you just wrote of a steelers board. You will get drilled worse than knowmo.
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:25 PM   #3
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:28 PM   #4
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:32 PM   #5
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:32 PM   #6
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:44 PM   #7
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We keep talking about our no 3 QB like that's a position worth talking about...
We have three #3 QBs.
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Old 11-22-2012, 02:11 PM   #9
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So is Stanzi, apparantly...
Stanzi is garbage and has no place in this league.

Terrible QB.
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Old 11-22-2012, 02:51 PM   #10
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I still struggle with using a #1 or #2 overall pick on any of the QB's coming out this year. This team needs help in so many areas that spending a high pick like that on what could end up being a middle of the road QB is extremely dangerous. Yes, the need is there but this team needs leaders and studs not more average players that we spent high picks to get. Part of our problem has been passing on great talent to try and fill a whole and then have that player not be productive. This could be the same ol' song and dance if we are not careful.
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Old 11-22-2012, 03:22 PM   #11
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I still struggle with using a #1 or #2 overall pick on any of the QB's coming out this year. This team needs help in so many areas that spending a high pick like that on what could end up being a middle of the road QB is extremely dangerous. Yes, the need is there but this team needs leaders and studs not more average players that we spent high picks to get. Part of our problem has been passing on great talent to try and fill a whole and then have that player not be productive. This could be the same ol' song and dance if we are not careful.
You want to talk about extremely dangerous and same ol' song and dance.
I will tell you what is extremely dangerous. Not drafting a QB at the top of this draft. If the Chiefs don't draft a top guy and are mediocre at all with whatever veteran or some thing like that. The same ol' song and dance. Arrowhead will become a tax debt hole that will never be forgotten by the taxpayers of that area. Arrowhead will be an empty baron wasteland.

Even if it is a band-aid and doesn't work out the Chiefs FO have put themselves in a corner by their own design. They have no choice even if it turns out to be a "bust". It will save face with the fans.
You want them to do something different. If year 2 the 1st round QB isn't working and you can at all you draft another one. And don't give me this waste of talent BS either.
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Old 11-22-2012, 05:01 PM   #12
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You want to talk about extremely dangerous and same ol' song and dance.
I will tell you what is extremely dangerous. Not drafting a QB at the top of this draft. If the Chiefs don't draft a top guy and are mediocre at all with whatever veteran or some thing like that. The same ol' song and dance. Arrowhead will become a tax debt hole that will never be forgotten by the taxpayers of that area. Arrowhead will be an empty baron wasteland.

Even if it is a band-aid and doesn't work out the Chiefs FO have put themselves in a corner by their own design. They have no choice even if it turns out to be a "bust". It will save face with the fans.
You want them to do something different. If year 2 the 1st round QB isn't working and you can at all you draft another one. And don't give me this waste of talent BS either.
I agree they need a QB. Shit, they need at least 2 of them. I'm not convinced next years QB class is very good at all. Maybe someone pans out and is an annual pro bowler. I'm not convinced that any of next years QB class is worthy of a #1 or #2 overall pick whether the Chiefs need one (or 2) or not. I want the Chiefs to succeed and if that means the guy isn't there this year then so be it, but to take chances at #1 or #2 is difficult. I want talent that is 100% or as close as anybody can get to 100% with those picks. I don't want Tyson Jackson type picks again. Those kind of risky picks is why we are where we are. What I am saying is if the QBOTF is not there, I am not going to jump off the ship because of it.
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:01 PM   #13
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bowl games and the combine wil determine who we are picking

I think geno will end up being the obvious number 1..I don't remember people being all upon rg3s dick until after the bowl game and the combine
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:08 PM   #14
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bowl games and the combine wil determine who we are picking

I think geno will end up being the obvious number 1..I don't remember people being all upon rg3s dick until after the bowl game and the combine
Geno isn't the prospect rgIII was. Again, I like geno. But rgIII was a sure thing. Everybody knew it and few disagreed.
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:13 PM   #15
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Geno isn't the prospect rgIII was. Again, I like geno. But rgIII was a sure thing. Everybody knew it and few disagreed.
months before the draft a lot of posts called the gap between Luck & RG3 a large one. There were folks calling RG3 sure bust who couldn't run an NFL offense and would be the next Vick but worse.


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