Anybody still think Haley shouldn't have been fired?

[oldman]

I shed no tears when Haley left KC. Regardless of what you think of Pioli and Clark, you can't have a subordinate openly defy the boss. What pissed me off was that he also flipped off the fans.
Now, would we have had the number of stupid penalties and turnovers if he was still the HC? Probably not, but we'd still be towards the bottom of the league standings because of his play calling.

[Woodchuck]

Originally Posted by oldman

I shed no tears when Haley left KC. Regardless of what you think of Pioli and Clark, you can't have a subordinate openly defy the boss. What pissed me off was that he also flipped off the fans.
Now, would we have had the number of stupid penalties and turnovers if he was still the HC? Probably not, but we'd still be towards the bottom of the league standings because of his play calling.

I don't know man. Pittsburgh is more penalized than we are.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Have a good night all. OUT!

[Woodchuck]

Todd Haley: The greatest coach that was never great.

This is a pretty funny thread! LOL

Listen to yourselves holding onto the "good ole days" with Todd Haley.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants

Todd Haley: The greatest coach that was never great.

This is a pretty funny thread! LOL

Listen to yourselves holding onto the "good ole days" with Todd Haley.

We will never know how good Haley might or might not of been here. It doesn't matter either. The one thing this season has shown is that Haley wasn't the main problem last year. It has shown that Pioli is the problem. With a different GM who knows if Haley would of retained his job or if the new GM would of went a different direction. Haley is a better HC than Romeo though not that it takes a lot.

[Woodchuck]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

We will never know how good Haley might or might not of been here. It doesn't matter either. The one thing this season has shown is that Haley wasn't the main problem last year. It has shown that Pioli is the problem.

This is good stuff and i agree.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

We will never know how good Haley might or might not of been here. It doesn't matter either. The one thing this season has shown is that Haley wasn't the main problem last year. It has shown that Pioli is the problem. With a different GM who knows if Haley would of retained his job or if the new GM would of went a different direction. Haley is a better HC than Romeo though not that it takes a lot.

I agree. Haley may or not have been a long-term solution but he certainly isn't the reason this team is like this. He got a ton out of Bowe and DJ. He made a lot of mistakes and I would have loved for him to find a real OC and let him be but then again I would have loved for him to have a solid QB.

I always wonder how much of Haley's personality and decisions were changed by trying to fit into the "Patriot Way". Maybe a lot, maybe none. I think it was a decent amount though.

[mlyonsd]

Haley's anus>Romeo. As head coach anyway.

[DaWolf]

Haley was better than Crennel, but he was in no way a good head coach or a good leader. So yes, he should have been canned. So should the rest of these guys...

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by DaWolf

Haley was better than Crennel, but he was in no way a good head coach or a good leader. So yes, he should have been canned. So should the rest of these guys...

This.

[BigMeatballDave]

How did Haley set them back 10 yrs?

LOL

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Dave

How did Haley set them back 10 yrs?

LOL

Try and keep up, Dave.

I was referring to Vermeil.

Haley just ****ed them over for five.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Rausch

T0dd added who and then made them players?

Anyone?...

He certainly had a lot of fail in the "role players" he added but when you have a strong GM its hard to think that most of the actual players added is on the first time head coach vs. Mr. Amazing GM. I would argue he did a good job with DJ and Bowe.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Haley just ****ed them over for five.

Again, whatever your feelings on him as a coach, I think the actual roster decisions need to fall on the guy whose ego seems too large to let a first time head coach make any major player decisions. He got a few role players and Breaston. That didn't set us back 5 years.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

He certainly had a lot of fail in the "role players" he added but when you have a strong GM its hard to think that most of the actual players added is on the first time head coach vs. Mr. Amazing GM. I would argue he did a good job with DJ and Bowe.



Again, whatever your feelings on him as a coach, I think the actual roster decisions need to fall on the guy whose ego seems too large to let a first time head coach make any major player decisions. He got a few role players and Breaston. That didn't set us back 5 years.

This is year FOUR since Haley and Pioli were hired.

Haley's since been fired. Crennel and Pioli will soon be fired.

How is 2013 NOT five years?

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This is year FOUR since Haley and Pioli were hired.

Haley's since been fired. Crennel and Pioli will soon be fired.

How is 2013 NOT five years?

I don't understand how you can always get so mad at people for misreading your posts yet constantly do it to others.

You said Haley ****ed the team over for five and thats my issue. Pioli is the one that has ****ed them over for five years. Pioli is the common factor for every year. Haley didn't make the roster decisions that are the issue with this team.

If you feel he didn't use the roster correctly that's fine, but if that's the case the team should be better. Since it isn't, its pretty clear that the set back of five years doesn't fall on Haley, it falls on Pioli.