Chiefs Article: Chiefs Most Likely Landing Spot for Foles

Frosty · 02-12-2013, 01:54 PM

I'm curious who we could get in the 3rd round this year that would compare? Just because Foles was a 3rd rounder last year in a very deep QB class doesn't mean he would be a 3rd rounder this year. I think Foles compares very favorably to Nassib and Glennon and those guys are considered late 1st, early 2nd guys.

suds79 · 02-12-2013, 01:57 PM

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I'm curious who we could get in the 3rd round this year that would compare? Just because Foles was a 3rd rounder last year in a very deep QB class doesn't mean he would be a 3rd rounder this year. I think Foles compares very favorably to Nassib and Glennon and those guys are considered late 1st, early 2nd guys.

I think Glennon is a 2nd rounder who could slip. Not sure. He's comparable.

Certainly Tyler Bray could be available in the 3rd. Nobody has his arm talent. Then there's EJ Manuel who everybody says has tools but is raw. Landy Jones? He's a 3rd or so right?

Frosty · 02-12-2013, 02:00 PM

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I think Glennon is a 2nd rounder who could slip. Not sure. He's comparable.

Certainly Tyler Bray could be available in the 3rd. Nobody has his arm talent. Then there's EJ Manuel who everybody says has tools but is raw. Landy Jones? He's a 3rd or so right?

Bray is a headcase, which Foles never was. Jones may be a fair comparison, though his biggest problem is folding under pressure.

I think Manuel will go in the 2nd. Someone will fall in love with his athleticism.

**RealSNR** · 02-12-2013, 02:02 PM

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I'm curious who we could get in the 3rd round this year that would compare? Just because Foles was a 3rd rounder last year in a very deep QB class doesn't mean he would be a 3rd rounder this year. I think Foles compares very favorably to Nassib and Glennon and those guys are considered late 1st, early 2nd guys.

I think Zac Dysert is a far better prospect than Nick Foles is. And we can probably get Dysert in the 3rd if we really want him.

Frosty · 02-12-2013, 02:03 PM

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I think Zac Dysert is a far better prospect than Nick Foles is. And we can probably get Dysert in the 3rd if we really want him.

From what I've seen, Dysert = Lindley - a very long term project.

**RealSNR** · 02-12-2013, 02:05 PM

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From what I've seen, Dysert = Lindley - a very long term project.

Except Lindley didn't have Dysert's release or accuracy.

That's my take anyway. If I watch college highlights of the two QBs side by side, there's really no comparison. Lindley just seems skiddish out there to me.

Dysert looks like he's got the arm for the pros.

Frosty · 02-12-2013, 02:15 PM

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Except Lindley didn't have Dysert's release or accuracy.

That's my take anyway. If I watch college highlights of the two QBs side by side, there's really no comparison. Lindley just seems skiddish out there to me.

Dysert looks like he's got the arm for the pros.

Dysert didn't look very accurate at the Senior Bowl and most scouting reports on him mention that he was a first-read, check down guy in college. I'm not that impressed.

I have been a fan of Foles since his first game at AZ (against my Beavers) and you hate him like he ran over your girlfriend and ****ed your dog (or maybe that's the other way around) so we probably aren't going to see this the same way.

**RealSNR** · 02-12-2013, 02:22 PM

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Dysert didn't look very accurate at the Senior Bowl and most scouting reports on him mention that he was a first-read, check down guy in college. I'm not that impressed.

I have been a fan of Foles since his first game at AZ (against my Beavers) and you hate him like he ran over your girlfriend and ****ed your dog (or maybe that's the other way around) so we probably aren't going to see this the same way.

Dysert's a developmental guy, for sure. Small school spread won't get you very far in the NFL if you're not able to learn and adapt. That's the huge question mark on the kid that nobody seems to knows about. I don't think scouts have done research on that the way they have for Geno Smith.

Arm (which includes release and accuracy) + how well the guy does under pressure are the two things that can get me to like any QB. I see those things from Dysert when I watch youtube game footage (never saw any of his games). I didn't see them from Lindley.

I think Foles has a Tebow arm when it comes to short/intermediate stuff. He DOES appear to have a bigger brain than Tebow, though. If he works through his short/mid-range game well enough, he could be a pretty good QB.

Again, though, that's like saying, "If this WR would just work on his route-running and getting separation from DBs, he'd be a FANTASTIC player." Let's see it happen first.

**BossChief** · 02-12-2013, 02:05 PM

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I think Zac Dysert is a far better prospect than Nick Foles is. And we can probably get Dysert in the 3rd if we really want him.

Foles already has a year with Reid and his system and also has game experience.

I'd rather trade a mid rounder for Foles for those reasons, but only as a backup.

I don't think he goes anywhere, though.

**RealSNR** · 02-12-2013, 02:07 PM

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Foles already has a year with Reid and his system and also has game experience.

I'd rather trade a mid rounder for Foles for those reasons, but only as a backup.

I don't think he goes anywhere, though.

Eh, whatever. This is all bullshit anyway. Reid already said that he's intrigued by Ricky Stanzi.

We all want a back up? There's our backup.

**BossChief** · 02-12-2013, 02:10 PM

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Eh, whatever. This is all bullshit anyway. Reid already said that he's intrigued by Ricky Stanzi.

We all want a back up? There's our backup.

All in all, I think Reid is more inclined to make chicken salad and not buying some.

Sure would be nice to give the kid a shot.

htismaqe · 02-12-2013, 02:54 PM

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I think Zac Dysert is a far better prospect than Nick Foles is. And we can probably get Dysert in the 3rd if we really want him.

Beat me to it.

As a prospect, Dysert's ceiling is much higher.

Frosty · 02-12-2013, 02:56 PM

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Beat me to it.

As a prospect, Dysert's ceiling is much higher.

No one has anyway of knowing that.

htismaqe · 02-12-2013, 02:58 PM

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No one has anyway of knowing that.

I think Dysert has considerably more room to grow.

Foles was a guy that seemed "maxed" coming out of college. He is what he is.

Frosty · 02-12-2013, 03:05 PM

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I think Dysert has considerably more room to grow.

Foles was a guy that seemed "maxed" coming out of college. He is what he is.

Foles was being talked about as a possible 1st round guy before he got hurt his Jr year (he got hurt when the team was 7-1 and ranked #16). Then he came back and played on a terrible team with no defense his Sr year. That dropped his stock. The questions about him coming out were if he could play under center and if he was a check down guy. I think he showed well on those concerns during his rookie year with the Eagles.

Dysert is being talked about as a quality back up.

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