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Old 02-11-2013, 11:03 PM  
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Article: Chiefs Most Likely Landing Spot for Foles

Now that Vick has re-signed with Philly, it makes sense that this stuff would start coming out given the Reid/Foles connection.

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Chiefs a logical landing spot if Nick Foles is dealt

By Dan Hanzus
Around the League Writer
Published: Feb. 11, 2013 at 08:12 p.m. Updated: Feb. 12, 2013 at 12:06 a.m.

Chip Kelly said Monday it was his "hope" the Philadelphia Eagles will have both Michael Vick and Nick Foles on the roster come Week 1.

Kelly called it an "open competition" at quarterback and stressed that Foles was kept in the loop on the Eagles' thinking in restructuring Vick's deal. It certainly doesn't sound like the Eagles are about to ship Foles out of town.

That said, Kelly didn't rule out a possible trade. Around The League checked in with NFL.com's Daniel Jeremiah, who served as the Eagles' west coast scout from 2010-12. Jeremiah doesn't know the Eagles' internal thinking on the matter, but he pointed to the Kansas City Chiefs as a potential trade fit.

The logic is simple: Andy Reid took over as head coach of the Chiefs last month after 14 seasons in Philadelphia. His staff includes Doug Pederson, the former Eagles' quarterbacks coach who now serves as the Chiefs' offensive coordinator. Foles' skill-set is ideally suited for the West Coast offense, and he spent his rookie season learning the Reid playbook in Philadelphia.

"I know both Andy Reid and Doug Pederson were very high on Nick Foles and his future," Jeremiah said. "They were huge supporters through the entire process and believe in him greatly.

"I would think they would explore that opportunity if it presented itself."

Reid and Pederson love Foles' size and accuracy, two traits they covet at the position. And while we don't imagine the Eagles would bend over backwards to help Reid, it certainly helps that the divorce between coach and team was largely amicable. That Reid now operates in a different conference doesn't hurt, either.

Kelly said Monday that every NFL team needs two quarterbacks. There's logic to that, especially when Vick is one of them. But if Reid wanted Foles enough, the Eagles would have to at least listen.

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Old 02-12-2013, 12:52 PM   #91
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I just don't understand why we would give up a premium to get Foles.

You could get an IDENTICAL prospect in the 3rd or 4th round. You could get a SUPERIOR prospect in the 2nd, which is the pick some are speculating it would take to get Foles.

People don't want to draft Geno Smith because of value value blah blah blah. Yet they're willing to throw a WHOLE ROUND OF VALUE down the toilet to get an unproven guy like Foles?
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:53 PM   #92
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:54 PM   #93
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I'm curious who we could get in the 3rd round this year that would compare? Just because Foles was a 3rd rounder last year in a very deep QB class doesn't mean he would be a 3rd rounder this year. I think Foles compares very favorably to Nassib and Glennon and those guys are considered late 1st, early 2nd guys.
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:57 PM   #94
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I'm curious who we could get in the 3rd round this year that would compare? Just because Foles was a 3rd rounder last year in a very deep QB class doesn't mean he would be a 3rd rounder this year. I think Foles compares very favorably to Nassib and Glennon and those guys are considered late 1st, early 2nd guys.
I think Glennon is a 2nd rounder who could slip. Not sure. He's comparable.

Certainly Tyler Bray could be available in the 3rd. Nobody has his arm talent. Then there's EJ Manuel who everybody says has tools but is raw. Landy Jones? He's a 3rd or so right?
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I think Glennon is a 2nd rounder who could slip. Not sure. He's comparable.

Certainly Tyler Bray could be available in the 3rd. Nobody has his arm talent. Then there's EJ Manuel who everybody says has tools but is raw. Landy Jones? He's a 3rd or so right?
Bray is a headcase, which Foles never was. Jones may be a fair comparison, though his biggest problem is folding under pressure.

I think Manuel will go in the 2nd. Someone will fall in love with his athleticism.
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:02 PM   #96
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I'm curious who we could get in the 3rd round this year that would compare? Just because Foles was a 3rd rounder last year in a very deep QB class doesn't mean he would be a 3rd rounder this year. I think Foles compares very favorably to Nassib and Glennon and those guys are considered late 1st, early 2nd guys.
I think Zac Dysert is a far better prospect than Nick Foles is. And we can probably get Dysert in the 3rd if we really want him.
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:03 PM   #98
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I think Zac Dysert is a far better prospect than Nick Foles is. And we can probably get Dysert in the 3rd if we really want him.
From what I've seen, Dysert = Lindley - a very long term project.
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I think Zac Dysert is a far better prospect than Nick Foles is. And we can probably get Dysert in the 3rd if we really want him.
Foles already has a year with Reid and his system and also has game experience.

I'd rather trade a mid rounder for Foles for those reasons, but only as a backup.

I don't think he goes anywhere, though.
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From what I've seen, Dysert = Lindley - a very long term project.
Except Lindley didn't have Dysert's release or accuracy.

That's my take anyway. If I watch college highlights of the two QBs side by side, there's really no comparison. Lindley just seems skiddish out there to me.

Dysert looks like he's got the arm for the pros.
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Foles already has a year with Reid and his system and also has game experience.

I'd rather trade a mid rounder for Foles for those reasons, but only as a backup.

I don't think he goes anywhere, though.
Eh, whatever. This is all bullshit anyway. Reid already said that he's intrigued by Ricky Stanzi.

We all want a back up? There's our backup.
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Eh, whatever. This is all bullshit anyway. Reid already said that he's intrigued by Ricky Stanzi.

We all want a back up? There's our backup.
All in all, I think Reid is more inclined to make chicken salad and not buying some.

Sure would be nice to give the kid a shot.
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Draft Geno.
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Keep Stanzi.
Draft a guy in the 6th/7th round.

Order them as need be on the depth chart and cut the worst guy.
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Except Lindley didn't have Dysert's release or accuracy.

That's my take anyway. If I watch college highlights of the two QBs side by side, there's really no comparison. Lindley just seems skiddish out there to me.

Dysert looks like he's got the arm for the pros.
Dysert didn't look very accurate at the Senior Bowl and most scouting reports on him mention that he was a first-read, check down guy in college. I'm not that impressed.

I have been a fan of Foles since his first game at AZ (against my Beavers) and you hate him like he ran over your girlfriend and ****ed your dog (or maybe that's the other way around) so we probably aren't going to see this the same way.
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Idk about you guys but I loved Foles when he came out last year. He was awesome at Arizona, but people didn't know it because his coach and team sucked ass.

Arizona was a top 10 passing team in college and Foles was very accurate. The guy has a rifle too.

Hell I liked him more than Wilson, Assweiler, Weeden and Tannehill.

If there is one guy who is comparable to Joe Flacco, it's this guy. He wasn't inconsistent in college and he isn't a pussy like Glennon.
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