Movies and TV John Carter (of Mars) trailer - Page 7

Brock · 03-12-2012, 09:34 AM

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John Carter opened to an estimated $30.6 million from 3,749 locations. That’s lower than practically any similar movie, beginning with those that came out around the same time of year. It was obviously way off from 300 ($70.9 million) and Watchmen ($55.2 million)—what’s more concerning, though, is that it was even a tad below 10,000 B.C. ($35.9 million) and Battle: Los Angeles ($35.6 million), both of which were modest movies in comparison.

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**Bowser** · 03-12-2012, 09:43 AM

Does a movie company account for future DVD sales and rentals when predicting what a film will do in its lifetime, or is it strictly numbers from the theater? I ask because this looks like one of thos emovies that could potentially do well with in home rentals and such.

keg in kc · 03-12-2012, 10:31 AM

They really dropped the ball with the marketing on it, starting right from the beginning leaving mars out of the title. Why would anybody who doesn't know what it is go to a movie called "John Carter". Just the name sounds boring. Which is why if it did skew older, I'm not all that surprised. You're not going to draw in teenagers with something that seems vanilla, whether the movie itself actually is or not. Still, it was not nearly as soft an opening as I expected. The question now will be the drop over the next few weeks. That all depends on word-of-mouth. In the end, though, I'd also be surprised to see over 100m domestic, too. Which might cover their panicked marketing blitz from the last month or so.

Disney's in a bit of a tailspin right now at the theaters.

Deberg_1990 · 03-13-2012, 07:43 PM

So i finally saw this today. My overall thoughts are it was good, but nothing great. The story and characters just fell sort of flat for me. I liked the action, and thought it was pretty well made overall, it just was missing something. Whatever something is.

Id give it a B. Not even close to Avatar or Dances with Wolves.

JD10367 · 03-15-2012, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

So i finally saw this today. My overall thoughts are it was good, but nothing great. The story and characters just fell sort of flat for me. I liked the action, and thought it was pretty well made overall, it just was missing something. Whatever something is.

Id give it a B. Not even close to Avatar or Dances with Wolves.

I'd agree. I don't think it was great, and I'm not even sure it was good. But it was enjoyable. Likewise, when I think of the sword-and-sorcery of my youth (Krull, Beastmaster, etc.,.), none of it was good but it was enjoyable.

I think the plot/writing could've used a little work, to get us more involved in Carter's character. There were some hints tossed (he doesn't believe in war, his wife was obviously killed while he was out fighting, etc.,.) but they could've gone into it in a little more depth. Also, since none of the leads were "name" actors, it was probably a little harder for the viewing audience to get into them (despite how much I'd like to get into Lynn Collins). And, while the effects may have been costly, some of them still looked a bit cheesy. Honestly, the film gets extra credit for being what it is (the ERB story that started it all). If it were "just a fantasy film" I'd give it a 6/10, but because of where it came from it gets bumped to a 7.5/10.

Deberg_1990 · 03-15-2012, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

I'd agree. I don't think it was great, and I'm not even sure it was good. But it was enjoyable. Likewise, when I think of the sword-and-sorcery of my youth (Krull, Beastmaster, etc.,.), none of it was good but it was enjoyable.

I think the plot/writing could've used a little work, to get us more involved in Carter's character. There were some hints tossed (he doesn't believe in war, his wife was obviously killed while he was out fighting, etc.,.) but they could've gone into it in a little more depth. Also, since none of the leads were "name" actors, it was probably a little harder for the viewing audience to get into them (despite how much I'd like to get into Lynn Collins). And, while the effects may have been costly, some of them still looked a bit cheesy. Honestly, the film gets extra credit for being what it is (the ERB story that started it all). If it were "just a fantasy film" I'd give it a 6/10, but because of where it came from it gets bumped to a 7.5/10.

yea, it did remind me of all the cheesy stuff i used to enjoy as a kid....Buck Rodgers, Flash Gordon, etc.....

They probably could have sped it up more....there were a few scenes of expository dialouge that just dragged the thing down.......But i loved the action and adventure. It was old fashioned which i liked. None of the modern day quick cutting, slow mo, sped up camera work that gets annoying.

Brock · 03-19-2012, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

yea, it did remind me of all the cheesy stuff i used to enjoy as a kid....Buck Rodgers, Flash Gordon, etc.....

Jesus, how old are you?

Deberg_1990 · 03-19-2012, 08:09 PM

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Jesus, how old are you?

just turned 83

Fishpicker · 03-15-2012, 02:02 AM

just saw this the other day. pretty good. I can't say it was great but its definitely worth the price of admission and the price of a 8 dollar soft drink with a 12 dollar bag of popcorn. And I ate about $20 worth of high powered weed so that helped.

actually... $50 seems a bit high. the trailers showed off all of the worthwhile effects anyway. I don't regret seeing it but it could have been so much more. Still, it was 100's times more entertaining than the Conan movie that came out last year.

i'd give it 6/10

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 03-19-2012, 07:44 PM

Disney announced today they expect to LOSE $200 million on the movie, placing it among the worst busts of all time.

Hammock Parties · 03-19-2012, 07:46 PM

So, probably no sequel.

ThaVirus · 03-19-2012, 09:39 PM

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So, probably no sequel.

Ya think?

Ultra Peanut · 03-21-2012, 12:08 AM

Poor, star-crossed Riggins.

WV · 03-21-2012, 12:11 AM

They are losing a shit ton of $$ on this thing. Guess the whole section of the population that never heard of this was bigger than they thought.

Hawk · 03-21-2012, 09:14 AM

Saw it, it was okay. I enjoyed it but it was not particularly special or anything.

I guess I don't really understand how it could have cost $250 million to make. That's what did them in.

03-12-2012, 09:43 AM	#2
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03-12-2012, 10:31 AM	#3
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	They really dropped the ball with the marketing on it, starting right from the beginning leaving mars out of the title. Why would anybody who doesn't know what it is go to a movie called "John Carter". Just the name sounds boring. Which is why if it did skew older, I'm not all that surprised. You're not going to draw in teenagers with something that seems vanilla, whether the movie itself actually is or not. Still, it was not nearly as soft an opening as I expected. The question now will be the drop over the next few weeks. That all depends on word-of-mouth. In the end, though, I'd also be surprised to see over 100m domestic, too. Which might cover their panicked marketing blitz from the last month or so. Disney's in a bit of a tailspin right now at the theaters.
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03-13-2012, 07:43 PM	#4
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3814454	So i finally saw this today. My overall thoughts are it was good, but nothing great. The story and characters just fell sort of flat for me. I liked the action, and thought it was pretty well made overall, it just was missing something. Whatever something is. Id give it a B. Not even close to Avatar or Dances with Wolves. __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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03-15-2012, 02:02 AM	#9
Fishpicker On one quarter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: I play all day Casino cash: $3167111	just saw this the other day. pretty good. I can't say it was great but its definitely worth the price of admission and the price of a 8 dollar soft drink with a 12 dollar bag of popcorn. And I ate about $20 worth of high powered weed so that helped. actually... $50 seems a bit high. the trailers showed off all of the worthwhile effects anyway. I don't regret seeing it but it could have been so much more. Still, it was 100's times more entertaining than the Conan movie that came out last year. i'd give it 6/10 __________________ A person who has been [ideologically] demoralized cannot assess true information. the [demoralization] process is complete and irreversible. -Yuri Bezmenov on Soviet Subversion
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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4510478	So, probably no sequel. __________________ Chiefs game films
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03-21-2012, 09:14 AM	#15
Hawk MVP Join Date: Jun 2005 Casino cash: $3594855	Saw it, it was okay. I enjoyed it but it was not particularly special or anything. I guess I don't really understand how it could have cost $250 million to make. That's what did them in.
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