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John Carter (of Mars) trailer

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Old 03-11-2012, 11:55 PM   #91
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Old 03-12-2012, 12:31 AM   #92
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If I remember right, the last projected opening numbers were around $25 million, and some people thought that was generous, so it exceeded expectations. Be interesting to see what the drop-off is next week.
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Old 03-12-2012, 07:24 AM   #93
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If I remember right, the last projected opening numbers were around $25 million, and some people thought that was generous, so it exceeded expectations. Be interesting to see what the drop-off is next week.
Heh, it's funny, 30 mil is a lot of money and probably one of the biggest openings of the year so far. But because the movie cost so much to make, it's viewed as a flop. That's still quite a few tickets sold. There was a time when 30 mil would have been blockbuster status. Another interesting stat I saw was that a large percentage of ticket buyers were older or over 40. I guess the premise didnt appeal much to younger audiences.
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Old 03-12-2012, 07:54 AM   #94
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Heh, it's funny, 30 mil is a lot of money and probably one of the biggest openings of the year so far. But because the movie cost so much to make, it's viewed as a flop. That's still quite a few tickets sold. There was a time when 30 mil would have been blockbuster status. Another interesting stat I saw was that a large percentage of ticket buyers were older or over 40. I guess the premise didnt appeal much to younger audiences.
There's no way the movie gets even close to making its money back. If it tops $100M I'd be surprised but not shocked, but I doubt it goes over $120M total. All things considered, though, given how badly the movie was thought of (I get the feeling the studio just finally facepalmed and threw it out there), I think they'd be pleased if it made $70M.
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:35 AM   #95
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There's no way the movie gets even close to making its money back. If it tops $100M I'd be surprised but not shocked, but I doubt it goes over $120M total. All things considered, though, given how badly the movie was thought of (I get the feeling the studio just finally facepalmed and threw it out there), I think they'd be pleased if it made $70M.

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John Carter opened to an estimated $30.6 million from 3,749 locations. That’s lower than practically any similar movie, beginning with those that came out around the same time of year. It was obviously way off from 300 ($70.9 million) and Watchmen ($55.2 million)—what’s more concerning, though, is that it was even a tad below 10,000 B.C. ($35.9 million) and Battle: Los Angeles ($35.6 million), both of which were modest movies in comparison.
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Does a movie company account for future DVD sales and rentals when predicting what a film will do in its lifetime, or is it strictly numbers from the theater? I ask because this looks like one of thos emovies that could potentially do well with in home rentals and such.
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Old 03-12-2012, 10:31 AM   #98
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They really dropped the ball with the marketing on it, starting right from the beginning leaving mars out of the title. Why would anybody who doesn't know what it is go to a movie called "John Carter". Just the name sounds boring. Which is why if it did skew older, I'm not all that surprised. You're not going to draw in teenagers with something that seems vanilla, whether the movie itself actually is or not. Still, it was not nearly as soft an opening as I expected. The question now will be the drop over the next few weeks. That all depends on word-of-mouth. In the end, though, I'd also be surprised to see over 100m domestic, too. Which might cover their panicked marketing blitz from the last month or so.

Disney's in a bit of a tailspin right now at the theaters.
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I've seen several 3D movies that simply weren't all that great, to be honest ... Alice comes to mind ... and the 3D in Thor was very distracting and pointless. Avatar, on the other hand, was good. I have this theory that, if the director doesn't shoot with 3D in mind throughout the production, the result can suck. It's like an IMAX film that wasn't shot in IMAX.


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Old 03-13-2012, 07:43 PM   #100
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So i finally saw this today. My overall thoughts are it was good, but nothing great. The story and characters just fell sort of flat for me. I liked the action, and thought it was pretty well made overall, it just was missing something. Whatever something is.


Id give it a B. Not even close to Avatar or Dances with Wolves.
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just saw this the other day. pretty good. I can't say it was great but its definitely worth the price of admission and the price of a 8 dollar soft drink with a 12 dollar bag of popcorn. And I ate about $20 worth of high powered weed so that helped.

actually... $50 seems a bit high. the trailers showed off all of the worthwhile effects anyway. I don't regret seeing it but it could have been so much more. Still, it was 100's times more entertaining than the Conan movie that came out last year.

i'd give it 6/10
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So i finally saw this today. My overall thoughts are it was good, but nothing great. The story and characters just fell sort of flat for me. I liked the action, and thought it was pretty well made overall, it just was missing something. Whatever something is.


Id give it a B. Not even close to Avatar or Dances with Wolves.
I'd agree. I don't think it was great, and I'm not even sure it was good. But it was enjoyable. Likewise, when I think of the sword-and-sorcery of my youth (Krull, Beastmaster, etc.,.), none of it was good but it was enjoyable.

I think the plot/writing could've used a little work, to get us more involved in Carter's character. There were some hints tossed (he doesn't believe in war, his wife was obviously killed while he was out fighting, etc.,.) but they could've gone into it in a little more depth. Also, since none of the leads were "name" actors, it was probably a little harder for the viewing audience to get into them (despite how much I'd like to get into Lynn Collins). And, while the effects may have been costly, some of them still looked a bit cheesy. Honestly, the film gets extra credit for being what it is (the ERB story that started it all). If it were "just a fantasy film" I'd give it a 6/10, but because of where it came from it gets bumped to a 7.5/10.
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I'd agree. I don't think it was great, and I'm not even sure it was good. But it was enjoyable. Likewise, when I think of the sword-and-sorcery of my youth (Krull, Beastmaster, etc.,.), none of it was good but it was enjoyable.

I think the plot/writing could've used a little work, to get us more involved in Carter's character. There were some hints tossed (he doesn't believe in war, his wife was obviously killed while he was out fighting, etc.,.) but they could've gone into it in a little more depth. Also, since none of the leads were "name" actors, it was probably a little harder for the viewing audience to get into them (despite how much I'd like to get into Lynn Collins). And, while the effects may have been costly, some of them still looked a bit cheesy. Honestly, the film gets extra credit for being what it is (the ERB story that started it all). If it were "just a fantasy film" I'd give it a 6/10, but because of where it came from it gets bumped to a 7.5/10.
yea, it did remind me of all the cheesy stuff i used to enjoy as a kid....Buck Rodgers, Flash Gordon, etc.....

They probably could have sped it up more....there were a few scenes of expository dialouge that just dragged the thing down.......But i loved the action and adventure. It was old fashioned which i liked. None of the modern day quick cutting, slow mo, sped up camera work that gets annoying.
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Disney announced today they expect to LOSE $200 million on the movie, placing it among the worst busts of all time.
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