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Old 02-12-2013, 05:52 PM   #1
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I do find it rather amazing that the same arguments being used to JUSTIFY trading picks for Foles are being used AGAINST drafting Geno Smith at #1 overall.

Apparently, being a highly-accurate QB in a 1-read offense is okay as long as you are somebody else's castoff...
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:10 PM   #2
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Look, if they want to trade a 6th for Foles, I'm all for it. But we all know that's not a realistic scenario.

This isn't Madden.
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Old 02-12-2013, 05:55 PM   #3
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Look, if they want to trade a 6th for Foles, I'm all for it. But we all know that's not a realistic scenario.

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EXACTLY. If he was worth a shit why would the Eagles give him away. It makes no sense at all.
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Redskins used a 4th on their backup.

We would use our high 2nd or 3rd? For a guy that WAS a 4th rounder?

Idiocy.
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:12 PM   #5
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Redskins used a 4th on their backup.

We would use a 2nd or a 3rd? For a guy that WAS a 4th rounder?

Idiocy.
Yet we can't draft Geno at #1 because it's not good "value".
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:15 PM   #6
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Redskins used a 4th on their backup.

We would use our high 2nd or 3rd? For a guy that WAS a 4th rounder?

Idiocy.
Foles was taken in the mid third.
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If Reid wants Foles as competition/backup ...I'd have no problem sending our top pick in the third for him.

We need to get this QB situation FIXED...as I said, if it takes our first overall AND our third rounder to fix our quarterback position, so be it.

IMO, we should just sign a solid vet and draft Geno...go to camp with Stanzi, Geno and a vet...but I wouldn't be pissed if all three of our quarterbacks were young and talented.

Andy Reid has shown the ability to take kids with talent and get them to play well or trade themfor premium picks AND players.
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:19 PM   #8
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If Reid wants Foles as competition/backup ...I'd have no problem sending our top pick in the third for him.

We need to get this QB situation FIXED...as I said, if it takes our first overall AND our third rounder to fix our quarterback position, so be it.

IMO, we should just sign a solid vet and draft Geno...go to camp with Stanzi, Geno and a vet...but I wouldn't be pissed if all three of our quarterbacks were young and talented.

Andy Reid has shown the ability to take kids with talent and get them to play well or trade themfor premium picks AND players.
The thing is, none of those scenarios you mentioned REQUIRE us to give up picks for Foles.

A guy like Foles is going to cost more than he's worth - see Matt Flynn.
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:26 PM   #9
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The thing is, none of those scenarios you mentioned REQUIRE us to give up picks for Foles.

A guy like Foles is going to cost more than he's worth - see Matt Flynn.
Foles has talent...there was a time when he was in the conversation for being a top ten pick and fell to the mid 3rd.

Flynn was a 7th rounder.

Question: we have all this trust in Andy Reid, right?

Well,Andy Reid thought it was good enough value in the third to take Foles, even though he had just given Vick a 100 million dollar contract.

I'm not saying they SHOULD trade for him, just that I wouldn't be pissed if they did.
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:29 PM   #10
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Foles has talent...there was a time when he was in the conversation for being a top ten pick and fell to the mid 3rd.

Flynn was a 7th rounder.

Question: we have all this trust in Andy Reid, right?

Well,Andy Reid thought it was good enough value in the third to take Foles, even though he had just given Vick a 100 million dollar contract.

I'm not saying they SHOULD trade for him, just that I wouldn't be pissed if they did.
Taking Foles in the 3rd after signing Vick is the exact OPPOSITE of the situation we have here, though...

I'm not suggesting I'll be pissed if they bring in Foles (unless they give up a high pick for him, which is just a ****ing waste) but it's certainly going to shake my confidence in Reid a bit. It just reeks of one of those moves coaches make to be comfortable and safe.

In the end, I just don't see any reason to bring him in. There are a myriad of better options out there.

Literally.

No reason.
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Taking Foles in the 3rd after signing Vick is the exact OPPOSITE of the situation we have here, though...

I'm not suggesting I'll be pissed if they bring in Foles (unless they give up a high pick for him, which is just a ****ing waste) but it's certainly going to shake my confidence in Reid a bit. It just reeks of one of those moves coaches make to be comfortable and safe.

In the end, I just don't see any reason to bring him in. There are a myriad of better options out there.

Literally.

No reason.
Reasons it would make sense to trade a mid round pick for Foles:

1) Andy Reid liked him enough to draft him in the third round, even though he had just committed to Vick with a 100 million dollars.

2) he just turned 24 and has the tools.

3) experience in the exact system we run and the skill set to run it.

......

Lets not act like Foles looked like trash....he played well for a rookie.
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Re-sign Bowe, Colquit, Dorsey and Albert. Try bringing Tyson Jackson back on a 1 year deal.

Sign Wilson, Canty, a vet QB and Barnett in free agency

Draft Geno in the first, a starting corner in the second and a good defensive linemen in the third.
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You would think that a guy named Foles would be a good fit for the Colts.
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Not if one year's first rounders are not as good as previous years' 3rd. Not saying at all that this is the case this year, but your theory needs a bit of of tightening.

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You would think that a guy named Foles would be a good fit for the Colts.
Colt McCoy is a much better fit.

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I've heard rumors it could take a 4th to get him...i'd be up for that probably
Our 4th is practically a 3rd. I'd be happier giving them a 5th plus Cassel. Of course in this scenario something needs to be done with Cassel's contract.

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EXACTLY. If he was worth a shit why would the Eagles give him away. It makes no sense at all.
They have a new coach and a system that may not be a good fit for him.

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