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Old 02-11-2013, 11:03 PM  
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Article: Chiefs Most Likely Landing Spot for Foles

Now that Vick has re-signed with Philly, it makes sense that this stuff would start coming out given the Reid/Foles connection.

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Chiefs a logical landing spot if Nick Foles is dealt

By Dan Hanzus
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Published: Feb. 11, 2013 at 08:12 p.m. Updated: Feb. 12, 2013 at 12:06 a.m.

Chip Kelly said Monday it was his "hope" the Philadelphia Eagles will have both Michael Vick and Nick Foles on the roster come Week 1.

Kelly called it an "open competition" at quarterback and stressed that Foles was kept in the loop on the Eagles' thinking in restructuring Vick's deal. It certainly doesn't sound like the Eagles are about to ship Foles out of town.

That said, Kelly didn't rule out a possible trade. Around The League checked in with NFL.com's Daniel Jeremiah, who served as the Eagles' west coast scout from 2010-12. Jeremiah doesn't know the Eagles' internal thinking on the matter, but he pointed to the Kansas City Chiefs as a potential trade fit.

The logic is simple: Andy Reid took over as head coach of the Chiefs last month after 14 seasons in Philadelphia. His staff includes Doug Pederson, the former Eagles' quarterbacks coach who now serves as the Chiefs' offensive coordinator. Foles' skill-set is ideally suited for the West Coast offense, and he spent his rookie season learning the Reid playbook in Philadelphia.

"I know both Andy Reid and Doug Pederson were very high on Nick Foles and his future," Jeremiah said. "They were huge supporters through the entire process and believe in him greatly.

"I would think they would explore that opportunity if it presented itself."

Reid and Pederson love Foles' size and accuracy, two traits they covet at the position. And while we don't imagine the Eagles would bend over backwards to help Reid, it certainly helps that the divorce between coach and team was largely amicable. That Reid now operates in a different conference doesn't hurt, either.

Kelly said Monday that every NFL team needs two quarterbacks. There's logic to that, especially when Vick is one of them. But if Reid wanted Foles enough, the Eagles would have to at least listen.

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Old 02-12-2013, 03:05 PM   #136
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Oh, I'm not anti-Foles.

I just don't see the logic in spending draft picks on the guy unless you're bringing him in to be THE starter.

And at that point, I have to be asking myself "WHY"?

I just can't think of a good reason to bring Foles here when we're sitting on the #1 overall pick.

Draft a backup in the 3rd this year.
That's a little silly. Don't ya think?

Foles was drafted by Andy Reid already and has a year of experience in his system and a half a year of playing experience, too.

I'd have no problem sending them a 4th and a late rounder for him if he is even available and Reid thinks its worth it.

In this league, you NEED 2 qbs.
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:06 PM   #137
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That's a little silly. Don't ya think?

Foles was drafted by Andy Reid already and has a year of experience in his system and a half a year of playing experience, too.

I'd have no problem sending them a 4th and a late rounder for him if he is even available and Reid thinks its worth it.

In this league, you NEED 2 qbs.
Again, you're saying 4th or later.

Everything I'm seeing is SECOND or THIRD.
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:10 PM   #138
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Look, if they want to trade a 6th for Foles, I'm all for it. But we all know that's not a realistic scenario.

This isn't Madden.
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:11 PM   #139
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Redskins used a 4th on their backup.

We would use our high 2nd or 3rd? For a guy that WAS a 4th rounder?

Idiocy.
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:12 PM   #140
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Redskins used a 4th on their backup.

We would use a 2nd or a 3rd? For a guy that WAS a 4th rounder?

Idiocy.
Yet we can't draft Geno at #1 because it's not good "value".
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If Reid wants Foles as competition/backup ...I'd have no problem sending our top pick in the third for him.

We need to get this QB situation FIXED...as I said, if it takes our first overall AND our third rounder to fix our quarterback position, so be it.

IMO, we should just sign a solid vet and draft Geno...go to camp with Stanzi, Geno and a vet...but I wouldn't be pissed if all three of our quarterbacks were young and talented.

Andy Reid has shown the ability to take kids with talent and get them to play well or trade themfor premium picks AND players.
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Redskins used a 4th on their backup.

We would use our high 2nd or 3rd? For a guy that WAS a 4th rounder?

Idiocy.
Foles was taken in the mid third.
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If Reid wants Foles as competition/backup ...I'd have no problem sending our top pick in the third for him.

We need to get this QB situation FIXED...as I said, if it takes our first overall AND our third rounder to fix our quarterback position, so be it.

IMO, we should just sign a solid vet and draft Geno...go to camp with Stanzi, Geno and a vet...but I wouldn't be pissed if all three of our quarterbacks were young and talented.

Andy Reid has shown the ability to take kids with talent and get them to play well or trade themfor premium picks AND players.
The thing is, none of those scenarios you mentioned REQUIRE us to give up picks for Foles.

A guy like Foles is going to cost more than he's worth - see Matt Flynn.
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Re-sign Bowe, Colquit, Dorsey and Albert. Try bringing Tyson Jackson back on a 1 year deal.

Sign Wilson, Canty, a vet QB and Barnett in free agency

Draft Geno in the first, a starting corner in the second and a good defensive linemen in the third.
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You would think that a guy named Foles would be a good fit for the Colts.
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The thing is, none of those scenarios you mentioned REQUIRE us to give up picks for Foles.

A guy like Foles is going to cost more than he's worth - see Matt Flynn.
Foles has talent...there was a time when he was in the conversation for being a top ten pick and fell to the mid 3rd.

Flynn was a 7th rounder.

Question: we have all this trust in Andy Reid, right?

Well,Andy Reid thought it was good enough value in the third to take Foles, even though he had just given Vick a 100 million dollar contract.

I'm not saying they SHOULD trade for him, just that I wouldn't be pissed if they did.
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Foles has talent...there was a time when he was in the conversation for being a top ten pick and fell to the mid 3rd.

Flynn was a 7th rounder.

Question: we have all this trust in Andy Reid, right?

Well,Andy Reid thought it was good enough value in the third to take Foles, even though he had just given Vick a 100 million dollar contract.

I'm not saying they SHOULD trade for him, just that I wouldn't be pissed if they did.
Taking Foles in the 3rd after signing Vick is the exact OPPOSITE of the situation we have here, though...

I'm not suggesting I'll be pissed if they bring in Foles (unless they give up a high pick for him, which is just a ****ing waste) but it's certainly going to shake my confidence in Reid a bit. It just reeks of one of those moves coaches make to be comfortable and safe.

In the end, I just don't see any reason to bring him in. There are a myriad of better options out there.

Literally.

No reason.
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Taking Foles in the 3rd after signing Vick is the exact OPPOSITE of the situation we have here, though...

I'm not suggesting I'll be pissed if they bring in Foles (unless they give up a high pick for him, which is just a ****ing waste) but it's certainly going to shake my confidence in Reid a bit. It just reeks of one of those moves coaches make to be comfortable and safe.

In the end, I just don't see any reason to bring him in. There are a myriad of better options out there.

Literally.

No reason.
Reasons it would make sense to trade a mid round pick for Foles:

1) Andy Reid liked him enough to draft him in the third round, even though he had just committed to Vick with a 100 million dollars.

2) he just turned 24 and has the tools.

3) experience in the exact system we run and the skill set to run it.

......

Lets not act like Foles looked like trash....he played well for a rookie.
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