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Old 07-17-2013, 01:24 PM   #1
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Give Cam Newton Julio Jones, Roddy White, and Tony Gonzalez and they'll be the best offense in the league. I'd take Cam over Matt Ryan and not think twice about it.
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Old 07-17-2013, 03:07 PM   #2
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Give Cam Newton Julio Jones, Roddy White, and Tony Gonzalez and they'll be the best offense in the league. I'd take Cam over Matt Ryan and not think twice about it.
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Old 07-17-2013, 12:49 PM   #3
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Matt Ryan has a HOF TE, elite WR and really good one in Roddy White
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Old 07-17-2013, 01:27 PM   #4
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Matt Ryan has a HOF TE, elite WR and really good one in Roddy White
When he was a rookie, he threw for about 3500 yards...had a total qbr of 75 and took a bad team to the playoffs.

Those other pieces (besides Roddy) were added afterwards.
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Old 07-17-2013, 01:32 PM   #5
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When he was a rookie, he threw for about 3500 yards...had a total qbr of 75 and took a bad team to the playoffs.

Those other pieces (besides Roddy) were added afterwards.
They weren't a bad team lacking personnel. They were a poorly coached team with a head coach that quit mid-season and QB that made headlines and was incarcerated.

The core talent to be a decent team was there. Michael Turner was a beast and Dimitroff had a very good draft class that produced immediate contributors.
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Old 07-17-2013, 02:23 PM   #6
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When he was a rookie, he threw for about 3500 yards...had a total qbr of 75 and took a bad team to the playoffs.

Those other pieces (besides Roddy) were added afterwards.
a "bad team" ??? RB Turner ran the rock 376 times that season and was voted all pro + probowl starter -- with Ryan's passing complimenting the run game, that is how they made the playoffs.

Ryan was good that first season, but leading the team to playoffs he did not.

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Every game Turner had the burners going, Matt Ryan also did well. But, Ryan had several 1xx yard games that season and when you see Turner could only muster 60 yards during the playoff game, the whole thing folded for the Falcons.

So, no, Ryan did not carry a bad team to the playoffs. Turner carried a decent team to the playoffs and Matt had beginners luck run out at the most critical time -- during the playoff game.
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Old 07-17-2013, 02:26 PM   #7
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a "bad team" ??? RB Turner ran the rock 376 times that season and was voted all pro + probowl starter -- with Ryan's passing complimenting the run game, that is how they made the playoffs.

Ryan was good that first season, but leading the team to playoffs he did not.

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Every game Turner had the burners going, Matt Ryan also did well. But, Ryan had several 1xx yard games that season and when you see Turner could only muster 60 yards during the playoff game, the whole thing folded for the Falcons.

So, no, Ryan did not carry a bad team to the playoffs. Turner carried a decent team to the playoffs and Matt had beginners luck run out at the most critical time -- during the playoff game.
24 points isn't bad for a team that can't run the ball.
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Old 07-17-2013, 02:50 PM   #8
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24 points isn't bad for a team that can't run the ball.
it was really more lopsided than that -- Cards had them 28 - 17 fourth qtr and then they got Ryan for a safety, making the score 30 - 17. Ryan's last TD was garbage time, really. The Falcons never led that game. Turner scored early, but Ryan had two costly INT's in spite of the two TD's he threw.
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I would love to see Cam with the Falcons.
I'd rather see him with the Chiefs
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Old 07-17-2013, 06:36 PM   #11
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Well duh

I just meant in terms of comparing Ryan and newton. Ryan would be decent on Carolina.
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Beginners luck?

Matt Ryan has been about as consistent as any quarterback in the league over the last 5 years and is total QBR as a rookie was within 3 points of what it was last year.

His 75 rating as a rookie would be good enough for fourth in the NFL last year.

Anyone that would expect more than that out of a ****ing rookie quarterback should go to the kids table.
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