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Old 02-12-2014, 10:41 AM   #1
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Holy shit, that was a gut punch.
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Old 02-12-2014, 10:53 AM   #2
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Holy shit, that was a gut punch.
I literally stalked around my house for a few minutes afterward I was so pissed off at this episode. The entire time she was partying it up, I was pissed because Liam was there. Fiona is supposed to be the responsible one, and while she's been on this kinda self-destructive track for the last few episodes, none of her actions were affecting anyone other than herself... that all came crashing down and in a major, major way.
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Old 02-12-2014, 11:49 AM   #3
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she's been on this kinda self-destructive track for the last few episodes, none of her actions were affecting anyone other than herself... that all came crashing down and in a major, major way.
That ball started rolling before the brother showed up. She'd been neglecting the kids to stay with her boyfriend. So she's had no idea of anything that's been going on outside of her own bubble.
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Old 02-12-2014, 12:04 PM   #4
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That ball started rolling before the brother showed up. She'd been neglecting the kids to stay with her boyfriend. So she's had no idea of anything that's been going on outside of her own bubble.
Yes, but like I said, none of her behavior up to that point had had any direct effect on anyone other than her (and her boyfriend).
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Old 02-12-2014, 01:01 PM   #5
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Yes, but like I said, none of her behavior up to that point had had any direct effect on anyone other than her (and her boyfriend).
Consider what Debbie had been going through (dating an older guy, hooking up in the bathroom), what Lip had been struggling with at school (remember her hanging up when he really needed to talk), as well as everything with Carl and Frank. She doesn't know anything about any of this, has had no impact, positive or otherwise, on any of them. I'd call that an effect in and of itself.

I think Lip and Debbie earlier in the episode (and Sheila all season) were foreshadowing of what happened at the end. Fiona had already been gone in spirit, now she's going to be gone for real.
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Old 02-12-2014, 12:33 PM   #6
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That ball started rolling before the brother showed up. She'd been neglecting the kids to stay with her boyfriend. So she's had no idea of anything that's been going on outside of her own bubble.
She's been sacrificing herself for the family her whole life. She never got to be a kid. She had a chance for some me time, while supporting the fam, and took it for once.
I can't fault that.
****ing the brother and exposing a toddler to coke is of course a whole different deal.

But as has been stated, that's why they call it Shameless.
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Old 02-12-2014, 12:56 PM   #7
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She's been sacrificing herself for the family her whole life. She never got to be a kid. She had a chance for some me time, while supporting the fam, and took it for once.
Never said otherwise...
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Old 02-12-2014, 01:48 PM   #8
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I was out of town and bored in a hotel Monday night. Was flipping through and ended up on the O.D'd kid episode. Never even heard of the show until then.

WTF.
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Old 02-12-2014, 01:52 PM   #9
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I was out of town and bored in a hotel Monday night. Was flipping through and ended up on the O.D'd kid episode. Never even heard of the show until then.

WTF.
You have to watch it from the series beginning to get full depth of how ****ed up it is. And funny...
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Old 02-12-2014, 02:13 PM   #10
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You have to watch it from the series beginning to get full depth of how ****ed up it is. And funny...
I'm not sure I want to. That night I dreamt I was in a big fight with all my friends and my six year old son got jacked in the face and was unconscious.

I'm guessing the two are related.
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I'm not sure I want to. That night I dreamt I was in a big fight with all my friends and my six year old son got jacked in the face and was unconscious.

I'm guessing the two are related.
Wow. Yeah, maybe this one isn't for you. It doesn't get any less disturbing outside of the kid and the Coke. That was a new low...
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Old 02-12-2014, 06:07 PM   #12
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I'm not sure I want to. That night I dreamt I was in a big fight with all my friends and my six year old son got jacked in the face and was unconscious.

I'm guessing the two are related.
It is a wildly perverse show. But it's usually perverse in a funny way.

Occasionally, never more so than this week, it's perverse in an 'over the line, Smokey' way. But usually more in a 'man, this family will do anything to get by' way.

It truly is about a family without shame, they'll steal, they'll scam for lawsuits or government $$, they'll deal drugs, eff over their friends, whatever it takes to put $$ in their pocket and stay under the radar.

And you'll marvel at times what they come up with and how brazenly they go about it.
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Old 02-13-2014, 09:13 AM   #13
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It is a wildly perverse show. But it's usually perverse in a funny way.

Occasionally, never more so than this week, it's perverse in an 'over the line, Smokey' way. But usually more in a 'man, this family will do anything to get by' way.

It truly is about a family without shame, they'll steal, they'll scam for lawsuits or government $$, they'll deal drugs, eff over their friends, whatever it takes to put $$ in their pocket and stay under the radar.

And you'll marvel at times what they come up with and how brazenly they go about it.
"I pay $50 at the Thai place and they do your laundry."

"Thai whores, stealing jobs from honest Americans."

"Your girls are Russian."
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Anyone watch the UK version? I watched the final season last month.
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Anyone watch the UK version? I watched the final season last month.
yes, I am on season 10 now. I tried watching the US version but found the UK version much better IMHO
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