Do Target workers deserve a shortened Black Friday?

[memyselfI]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I have to work on both days, so I still don't see the deal.

If you took your job knowing this then I don't think it's a big deal. But if your employer changed their policy to require you to work then I think it is. Freakin retailers are open 363 other days. What is two freakin days off to them?

Seriously, has our conspicuous consumption society become so jaded that we can't even allow for TWO FREAKING DAYS to celebrate with family, community, or church? And if it has, what does that say about us?

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I have to work on both days, so I still don't see the deal.

What is your job? The deal here is that people have to work on Thanksgiving because Target wants to leak black Friday into Thursday night.

I managed a movie theater through college. Everyone we hired knew they were going to work late, weekends, and holidays(3 shifts out of the 5 between Thanksgiving, Christmas Eve/Day, and New Years Eve/Day). The issue is a lot of places don't have this expectation. Knowing you will have to work every Black Friday and now being asked to work Thanksgiving night because Black Friday is now Black Thursday is a legit gripe IMO. I wouldn't quit over it, but if people were rallying to stop it I would be behind them.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by memyselfI

If you took your job knowing this then I don't think it's a big deal. But if your employer changed their policy to require you to work then I think it is. Freakin retailers are open 363 other days. What is two freakin days off to them?

Seriously, has our conspicuous society become so jaded that we can't even allow for TWO FREAKING DAYS to celebrate with family, community, or church? And if it has what does that say about us?

Technically they said we have 6 paid holidays off, however, someone has to do therapy due to medicare laws. Since I am new there, I am likely expected to work as many of my colleagues will probably take it off.

A day is a day. I can save PTO and take time off at some other time to spend time with my family since I will be working holidays.

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

What is your job? The deal here is that people have to work on Thanksgiving because Target wants to leak black Friday into Thursday night.

I managed a movie theater through college. Everyone we hired knew they were going to work late, weekends, and holidays(3 shifts out of the 5 between Thanksgiving, Christmas Eve/Day, and New Years Eve/Day). The issue is a lot of places don't have this expectation. Knowing you will have to work every Black Friday and now being asked to work Thanksgiving night because Black Friday is now Black Thursday is a legit gripe IMO. I wouldn't quit over it, but if people were rallying to stop it I would be behind them.

Speech Therapy. I think it is utterly reeruned that retailers are open Thanksgiving night but such is life. I was pretty sure I was going to be getting holidays off too when I accepted a new job but I realize now that work still has to be done on that day and I am "encouraged/expected" to work most holidays. Plus the increased pay doesn't hurt.

[R8RFAN]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Black Friday isn't the issue, dude. It's Thanksgiving.

It's never going to change unless the customers refused to go to the stores.

The people to blame are the customers in my mind.

[memyselfI]

Originally Posted by R8ers

It's never going to change unless the customers refused to go to the stores.

The people to blame are the customers in my mind.

I agree with this. I wish it would start becoming an embarrassing and shameful to be seen at these sales but instead it's trendy and all the rage. Even a guy being stampeded to death didn't stop people so a few people having to work on Thanksgiving evening won't.

I may shop online on Thanksgiving Day. I suppose some IT guy is having to give up time with his family to make sure the company website doesn't crash. However, I will NOT shop at a brick and mortar store on Thanksgiving Day unless it's a drug store like Walgreens or CVS which never closes. Opening on Thanksgiving was a terrible precedent started amongst big box retailers by Kmart a number of years ago and I gave up shopping with them because of it.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by memyselfI

I agree with this. I wish it would start becoming an embarrassing and shameful to be seen at these sales but instead it's trendy and all the rage. Even a guy being stampeded to death didn't stop people so a few people having to work on Thanksgiving evening won't.

I may shop online on Thanksgiving Day. I suppose some IT guy is having to give up time with his family to make sure the company website doesn't crash. However, I will NOT shop at a brick and mortar store on Thanksgiving Day unless it's a drug store like Walgreens or CVS which never closes. Opening on Thanksgiving was a terrible precedent started amongst big box retailers by Kmart a number of years ago and I gave up shopping with them because of it.

I definitely agree with this and I think it is ridiculous that stores are open on Thanksgiving and other holidays. I will never shop on these crazy days to score some deal with hundreds of other idiots. But such is life for many workers in today's society.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by R8ers

It's never going to change unless the customers refused to go to the stores.

The people to blame are the customers in my mind.

Truth.

[Simply Red]

these are the people you count on when you furnish your wardrobe Clay - you should be ashamed calling them 'slobs' - shame on you.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Simply Red

these are the people you count on when you furnish your wardrobe Clay - you should be ashamed calling them 'slobs' - shame on you.

[NJChiefsFan]

I wonder what kind of impact this would have on shoppers going to Target? Considering the stories and anger mom's have on Black Friday I doubt they would give one **** about the Target employees.

[R8RFAN]

we can all sit here and point fingers but tell me if your wife forgot to buy a turkey roasting pan (cheap one) or the thick metal kind you buy from wally world . you know you would hop in the car and go get it and be just as guilty as anyone.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by R8ers

we can all sit here and point fingers but tell me if your wife forgot to buy a turkey roasting pan (cheap one) or the thick metal kind you buy from wally world . you know you would hop in the car and go get it and be just as guilty as anyone.

Figure out a way bitch. Football be on.

[Gary]

Every store I managed, I tried to make the holiday schedules as fair as possible. I put up sign up sheets for the employees and asst managers to pick 2 of the last 3 holidays(Thanksgiving, Xmas, & New Years) they preferred to work. I also kept track of how many holidays each employee worked, so on one was having to pull all the holidays while someone else always had them off. It wasn't perfect, but it was the best I could do within company guidelines.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Gary

Every store I managed, I tried to make the holiday schedules as fair as possible. I put up sign up sheets for the employees and asst managers to pick 2 of the last 3 holidays(Thanksgiving, Xmas, & New Years) they preferred to work. I also kept track of how many holidays each employee worked, so on one was having to pull all the holidays while someone else always had them off. It wasn't perfect, but it was the best I could do within company guidelines.

I did the same thing. As long as you do all you can and the employees know everyone will be asked to work an equal amount it usually works out alright.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

I did the same thing. As long as you do all you can and the employees know everyone will be asked to work an equal amount it usually works out alright.

There's a few things different here. First, it sounds like there wasn't much advanced notice for Target employees.

Second, it would be different if we were talking about casual Thanksgiving day shifts. First, I don't know if you're talking about night shifts. Second, are you talking about pre-black Friday shifts? Because those working 9pm on Thanksgiving are going to have to deal with a ton of pre-black Friday bullshit.