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View Poll Results: What's the offenses biggest weakness
Alex Smith 29 23.02%
The offensive line 67 53.17%
The wide receivers 13 10.32%
Play calling 11 8.73%
Something else 6 4.76%
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Old 12-16-2014, 01:22 PM   #1
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Matt Cassel threw down the field. He didn't do it accurately....but he'd at least ****ing do it.
Yeah it'd be nice to occasionally stretch the defense out or make them think about a deep ball, but you still need deep threat receivers for that.

Teams will continue to man cover and stack the box even if they feel you might throw it deep to some scrub. No one will fear the receivers we have on this roster. The sad thing is that guys like Avery and Jenkins actually have speed, but even when they were healthy, the Chiefs wouldn't throw it to them deep. Then again, there's more to the deep ball than just being fast.
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Old 12-16-2014, 01:20 PM   #2
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Then how does Charles happen to have the all time YPC mark? Because the passing game has never really been there during his career.

Reid is just not patient enough with the running game to stick with it and give Charles or Davis the opportunity to break a big one.

To answer the OP's question, the number one reason the offense isn't average is the offensive line. The number one reason they aren't and will never be elite in today's NFL, is the QB position.
Because he's amazing when given a crease?

Those creases haven't been there. Yeah, we've had a lot of shitty teams over the years that couldn't pass. But this historically bad? And even then, our running game was still stronger.

Not only that, but JC's YPC has gone down this year....And when you watch him run, he hasn't seemed to have lost a step or any burst....which only leaves one conclusion.

Last year's O-line was far better than this years...and it shows in both the pass and run.
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Old 12-16-2014, 01:25 PM   #3
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Because he's amazing when given a crease?

Those creases haven't been there. Yeah, we've had a lot of shitty teams over the years that couldn't pass. But this historically bad? And even then, our running game was still stronger.

Not only that, but JC's YPC has gone down this year....And when you watch him run, he hasn't seemed to have lost a step or any burst....which only leaves one conclusion.

Last year's O-line was far better than this years...and it shows in both the pass and run.
The line was better last year, but Charles is still 2nd in YPC among backs in 2014. I wouldn't call that a huge dropoff, even though his YPC is down.

I'd like to see a stat that shows what his YPC has been over the course of the season, to see if it's gotten worse game by game. But overall, with a 5.0 YPC, I'd say we need to run more often.
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O-line followed by QB. Receiving options is a distant 3rd IMO.
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Old 12-16-2014, 11:12 AM   #5
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O-line followed by QB. Receiving options is a distant 3rd IMO.
I have to agree with this

Hudson Fisher and Harris are the only guys that should even be on an nfl team IMO. Our guards are just horrendous and they constantly force the other three guys try to compensate for them, leading to all sorts of problems.
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bowe gets paid the big bucks to drag his feet in bounds.
And far more often than not, he does.

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Alex Smith gets paid the big bucks to throw the ball accurately.
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Alex Smith gets paid the big bucks to throw the ball accurately.
How does Alex rank on Accuracy this year?
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How does Alex rank on Accuracy this year?
It's got to be low. He is constantly throwing behind the receivers on the short passes and overthrowing the longer ones.
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It's got to be low. He is constantly throwing behind the receivers on the short passes and overthrowing the longer ones.
I remember hearing the opposite...but wasn't sure.
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Offensive Line.

This info is a week old.

Smith's avg time to when he attempts a pass is 2.42 seconds

Why?
Because,
58% of the time Smith's dropbacks are 2.5 seconds or less.

Why?
Because Reid and Co. saw how utter crap the O-Line played all summer and preseason.
The offense has been put into a box by this first and foremost.
Only have been sacked 4 times during these quick dropbacks.

But hasn't Smith been sacked 38 times? Yes.
So we know 42% of the dropbacks have been 2.6 seconds or longer. And 34 sacks.

42% is under 200 dropbacks and 34 sacks.
Smith is getting sacked slightly more than 1 out of every 6 dropbacks he doesn't throw in 2.5 seconds.

Is he holding the ball way too long? No, not really.
The avg time to all his sacks is 3.40 seconds.

Comparison to a few other QBs sacks
Kaepernick 3.77
Rodgers 4.07
or the worst Geno 4.43



Remember the pass Smith couldn't make on the mark to Bowe for about 15 yards Sunday? Pressure was pushed into Smith in the form of Fisher. Throw was a little off and Bowe couldn't adjust to it.

Game 1 @ OAK didn't get to Carr much.
SF @ OAK didn't get to Carr much.
Sunday you get to Carr and he failed all over the place.

PIT has had little success getting sacks this year. KC has Houston and a nice rush. If that plays out KC has a good chance to win.

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All of the above.

If I had to rank them though.

1. Offensive Line
2. QB
3. Playcalling
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