Other Sports Official NBA 2015 Off-Season - Page 23

Al Bundy · 08:55 PM

NBA Draft June 25th.
1Minnesota Timberwolves
Lottery luck means Minnesota can take either Okafor or Towns to solidfy the middle.
Karl Anthony Towns
2 Los Angeles Lakers
See above. Whichever elite big man is left after Minnesota picks is likely headed to L.A.
D'Angelo Russell.
3 Philadelphia 76ers
Philadelphia has one first round pick and a whopping five second round selections.
Jahlil Okafor
4 New York Knicks
The Lottery didn't go as they wanted, but there will still be plenty of talent available at No. 4.
Kristaps Porzingis
5 Orlando Magic
In need of perimeter scoring, power forward Kristaps Porzingis could be the best bet.
Mario Hezonja
6 Sacramento Kings
The Kings could be in good position to find the ideal Cousins compliment in Cauley-Stein.
Wilie Cauley-Stein
7 Denver Nuggets
In need of shooters, the Nuggets will have a handful of interesting options in play.
Emmanuel Mudiay
8 Detroit Pistons
Mario Hezonja or Winslow could be the way to go for a team lacking shooters.
Stanley Johnson F Arizona
9 Charlotte Hornets
Do the Hornets go with a power forward again, or go for the shooter they need?
Frank Kaminsky
10 Miami Heat
Miami's pick here depends on if Pat Riley believes Hassan Whiteside is the real deal.
Justise Winslow
11 Indiana Pacers
In need of offense and a shooter, Devin Booker would be the ideal pick here.
Myles Turner
12 Utah Jazz
Utah will be looking to add some more offense, possibly in the form of a stretch four.
Trey Lyles
13 Phoenix Suns
The Suns could be looking at a power forward, so there will be plenty of options.
Devin Booker
14 Oklahoma City Thunder
Finding a dependable backup for Russell Westbrook could be the way to go here.
Murray State guard Cameron Payne
15 Atlanta Hawks
Should Atlanta be looking to protect itself from free agency losses? (From Brooklyn)
Kelly Oubre traded to Washington for the No. 19 pick tonight and two future second-round picks.
16 Boston Celtics
Brad Stevens needs to add prospects on both ends of the floor to his stable.
Terry Rozier Louisville
17 Milwaukee Bucks
The Bucks would love to add another scorer to their young stable.
Rashad Vaughn UNLV
18 Houston Rockets
Is the possible backup point guard solution out there for Houston? (From New Orleans)
Sam Dekker
19 Washington Wizards Traded to Atlanta along with 2 future 2nd rounders for Kelly Oubre.
Is there a right fit at this spot to go alongside the team's thrilling backcourt?
Jerian Grant- traded to the Knicks for Tim Hardaway Jr.
20 Toronto Raptors
The Raptors need a shakeup badly, and will be looking for a youngster that can step up.
Delon Wright Utah
21 Dallas Mavericks
Forever getting older, Dallas could use youth in the front and backcourts.
Justin Anderson
22 Chicago Bulls
Will Chicago's new coach start molding his new team with a college face he knows well?
Bobby Portis
23 Portland Trail Blazers
Do the Blazers need a contigency plan if LaMarcus Aldridge leaves via free agnecy?
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
24 Cleveland Cavaliers
The Cavs are always looking for shooters who can create space for LeBron James.
Tyus Jones will be traded to the Timberwolves
25 Memphis Grizzlies
Memphis might look to start replacing its aging big men with a project here.
Jarell Martin
26 San Antonio Spurs
San Antonio is always reloading from odd places. Do they go overseas again?
Nikola Milutinov
27 Los Angeles Lakers
After scoring big early, the Lakers will look to fill out the roster. (From Houston)
Larry Nance Jr.
28 Boston Celtics
The playoff berth proved that the rebuilding project is ahead of schedule.(From Clippers)
R.J. Hunter
29 Brooklyn Nets
This pick was swapped with Atlanta in the Joe Johnson trade. (From Atlanta)
Chris McCullough
30 Golden State Warriors
Kevon Looney

**dirk digler** · 07-02-2015, 02:53 PM

I don't have a problem with guys at the end of their career taking less to go to a team to try to win a championship, especially if they don't have a ring. Players do it in the NFL as well.

Hootie · 07-02-2015, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mac459

Why do you think it is worse..not being a dick honestly curious

because two guys that were still top 25 NBA players came to a team, for vet min. deals, to team up with the 2 best players in the NBA for 1 year to steal a championship to pad their careers

That's why.

And I hated the Boston big 3, and I hated the Heat big 2 + Bosh as well. Seriously. I was enamored with LeBron when he was in Cleveland and I ****ing hated him for those first 2 years in Miami because of that.

...I hated Dwight to LA.

I hated what Carmelo did to Denver. I'm going to hate what happens with KD in OKC if he recovers (eventually).

These guys don't need big markets or super teams to make a fortune. Give small market franchises a chance. There is absolutely no reason why they can't put a franchise tag in the NBA. Or a hard cap. I don't care if the hard cap is $200M and you can start paying guys their actual value (LeBron = $60M). Or make it so you cannot make a trade, under any circumstance, if you're over the soft cap.

I'm just tired of trade exceptions, Brandon Haywood's, and the "super team" concept. I don't think a team like the Spurs should be able to add a max level player when they have Duncan and Kawhi with 5 other really good role players ... just because Duncan decides to play for what the 8th guy on Cleveland is going to make.

**dirk digler** · 07-02-2015, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

These guys don't need big markets or super teams to make a fortune. Give small market franchises a chance. There is absolutely no reason why they can't put a franchise tag in the NBA. Or a hard cap. I don't care if the hard cap is $200M and you can start paying guys their actual value (LeBron = $60M). Or make it so you cannot make a trade, under any circumstance, if you're over the soft cap.

I'm just tired of trade exceptions, Brandon Haywood's, and the "super team" concept. I don't think a team like the Spurs should be able to add a max level player when they have Duncan and Kawhi with 5 other really good role players ... just because Duncan decides to play for what the 8th guy on Cleveland is going to make.

I totally agree with that. I definitely think the NBA needs a Franchise Tag but the players would never go for it.

Hootie · 07-02-2015, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac459

I get what he is saying about the contract part..I'm just not seeing how adding a 40 something Malone and a mid to late 30 Payton is worse than bringing in young players to stack a team for playoff runs

dude ...

are you really going to reference the age of Malone and Payton and ignore what they still were when they came to the Lakers?

Payton was still at his peak. He was coming off a 21 PPG / 5 RPG / 9 APG / 2 SPG defensive All-NBA 1st team season. And he came over for the mid-level exception or vet. min (I forget).

Malone still posted a 21/8/5 with 2 SPG line as well.

This was done for 1 reason. To steal a championship. They were supposed to challenge 72 wins, too. They were the heaviest betting favorites preseason in NBA history, and still heavily favored to beat the Pistons in the Finals despite Malone's injury.

It was ridiculous.

...and you guys, like usual, are pretending that I didn't hate the Heat/Celtics super teams.

kcxiv · 07-02-2015, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

The thing is that's for a season or two at best. Doing it when the guys are in their prime (like the Heat/Cavs) puts that team in the championship every year for 4 straight years. I'm sorry but you have to be a ****ing idiot to not see the difference.

Also, Lebron did it in the East making it that much easier. Come on man

dude its ****ing Hootie, dont even bother trying! lol

Titty Meat · 07-02-2015, 03:47 PM

LA meeting with the Lakers again!

**The Franchise** · 07-02-2015, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Billay

LA meeting with the Lakers again!

Hope he signs with the Suns.

-King- · 07-02-2015, 04:36 PM

Wade back to the Heat on a 1 year $20M deal.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13...-one-year-deal

-King- · 07-02-2015, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billay

LA meeting with the Lakers again!

He must really want to play with the Kobester.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 07-02-2015, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King-

He must really want to play with the Kobester.

We all know Kobe won't get the invite this time around

chiefzilla1501 · 07-02-2015, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Billay

LA meeting with the Lakers again!

Don't they meet with the Lakers every day?

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 07-02-2015, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Don't they meet with the Lakers every day?

He watches so little basketball, he doesn't know it's LMA

Titty Meat · 07-02-2015, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss

He watches so little basketball, he doesn't know it's LMA

I bought league pass I just choose not to speak to bundle of stickss like you. Have you been right on any basketball take?

tk13 · 07-03-2015, 01:16 PM

I'm pretty sure Karl Malone could probably still go out there next week and average 20/8. He was a complete beast and kept himself in unbelievable shape. But like Hootie said these super teams never seem to quite work out.

The Celtics did, but they actually traded for Allen and Garnett. I don't know why that makes a difference, but in almost every sport it seems to work out better when you trade for a superstar. Building a super team through FA rarely seems to work. Maybe because guys get too fat and happy? I don't know why.

**Perineum Ripper** · 07-03-2015, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

dude ...

are you really going to reference the age of Malone and Payton and ignore what they still were when they came to the Lakers?

Payton was still at his peak. He was coming off a 21 PPG / 5 RPG / 9 APG / 2 SPG defensive All-NBA 1st team season. And he came over for the mid-level exception or vet. min (I forget).

Malone still posted a 21/8/5 with 2 SPG line as well.

This was done for 1 reason. To steal a championship. They were supposed to challenge 72 wins, too. They were the heaviest betting favorites preseason in NBA history, and still heavily favored to beat the Pistons in the Finals despite Malone's injury.

It was ridiculous.

...and you guys, like usual, are pretending that I didn't hate the Heat/Celtics super teams.

They had good years before I agree but Payton played like dog shit most of the year in the triangle offense and Malone spent quite a bit of time on the bench due to injuries if I remember right and was out of the league the year after his 1 with the Lakers..so yeah age is a big part of the factor along with fitting the system on place

I also just looked up Payton's stats his last good season was the year before he played in LA..he didn't average over 14 points in any season after 02-03

I'm not ignoring you hating the other teams..I was just curious why you thought them going to LA was worse

06-23-2015, 07:43 PM
Al Bundy Damnit Peg Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $5321831	Official NBA 2015 Off-Season NBA Draft June 25th. 1Minnesota Timberwolves Lottery luck means Minnesota can take either Okafor or Towns to solidfy the middle. Karl Anthony Towns 2 Los Angeles Lakers See above. Whichever elite big man is left after Minnesota picks is likely headed to L.A. D'Angelo Russell. 3 Philadelphia 76ers Philadelphia has one first round pick and a whopping five second round selections. Jahlil Okafor 4 New York Knicks The Lottery didn't go as they wanted, but there will still be plenty of talent available at No. 4. Kristaps Porzingis 5 Orlando Magic In need of perimeter scoring, power forward Kristaps Porzingis could be the best bet. Mario Hezonja 6 Sacramento Kings The Kings could be in good position to find the ideal Cousins compliment in Cauley-Stein. Wilie Cauley-Stein 7 Denver Nuggets In need of shooters, the Nuggets will have a handful of interesting options in play. Emmanuel Mudiay 8 Detroit Pistons Mario Hezonja or Winslow could be the way to go for a team lacking shooters. Stanley Johnson F Arizona 9 Charlotte Hornets Do the Hornets go with a power forward again, or go for the shooter they need? Frank Kaminsky 10 Miami Heat Miami's pick here depends on if Pat Riley believes Hassan Whiteside is the real deal. Justise Winslow 11 Indiana Pacers In need of offense and a shooter, Devin Booker would be the ideal pick here. Myles Turner 12 Utah Jazz Utah will be looking to add some more offense, possibly in the form of a stretch four. Trey Lyles 13 Phoenix Suns The Suns could be looking at a power forward, so there will be plenty of options. Devin Booker 14 Oklahoma City Thunder Finding a dependable backup for Russell Westbrook could be the way to go here. Murray State guard Cameron Payne 15 Atlanta Hawks Should Atlanta be looking to protect itself from free agency losses? (From Brooklyn) Kelly Oubre traded to Washington for the No. 19 pick tonight and two future second-round picks. 16 Boston Celtics Brad Stevens needs to add prospects on both ends of the floor to his stable. Terry Rozier Louisville 17 Milwaukee Bucks The Bucks would love to add another scorer to their young stable. Rashad Vaughn UNLV 18 Houston Rockets Is the possible backup point guard solution out there for Houston? (From New Orleans) Sam Dekker 19 Washington Wizards Traded to Atlanta along with 2 future 2nd rounders for Kelly Oubre. Is there a right fit at this spot to go alongside the team's thrilling backcourt? Jerian Grant- traded to the Knicks for Tim Hardaway Jr. 20 Toronto Raptors The Raptors need a shakeup badly, and will be looking for a youngster that can step up. Delon Wright Utah 21 Dallas Mavericks Forever getting older, Dallas could use youth in the front and backcourts. Justin Anderson 22 Chicago Bulls Will Chicago's new coach start molding his new team with a college face he knows well? Bobby Portis 23 Portland Trail Blazers Do the Blazers need a contigency plan if LaMarcus Aldridge leaves via free agnecy? Rondae Hollis-Jefferson 24 Cleveland Cavaliers The Cavs are always looking for shooters who can create space for LeBron James. Tyus Jones will be traded to the Timberwolves 25 Memphis Grizzlies Memphis might look to start replacing its aging big men with a project here. Jarell Martin 26 San Antonio Spurs San Antonio is always reloading from odd places. Do they go overseas again? Nikola Milutinov 27 Los Angeles Lakers After scoring big early, the Lakers will look to fill out the roster. (From Houston) Larry Nance Jr. 28 Boston Celtics The playoff berth proved that the rebuilding project is ahead of schedule.(From Clippers) R.J. Hunter 29 Brooklyn Nets This pick was swapped with Atlanta in the Joe Johnson trade. (From Atlanta) Chris McCullough 30 Golden State Warriors Kevon Looney Last edited by Al Bundy; 06-25-2015 at 08:55 PM..
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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1812500	I'm pretty sure Karl Malone could probably still go out there next week and average 20/8. He was a complete beast and kept himself in unbelievable shape. But like Hootie said these super teams never seem to quite work out. The Celtics did, but they actually traded for Allen and Garnett. I don't know why that makes a difference, but in almost every sport it seems to work out better when you trade for a superstar. Building a super team through FA rarely seems to work. Maybe because guys get too fat and happy? I don't know why.
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