Other Sports Official NBA 2015 Off-Season - Page 22

Al Bundy · 08:55 PM

NBA Draft June 25th.
1Minnesota Timberwolves
Lottery luck means Minnesota can take either Okafor or Towns to solidfy the middle.
Karl Anthony Towns
2 Los Angeles Lakers
See above. Whichever elite big man is left after Minnesota picks is likely headed to L.A.
D'Angelo Russell.
3 Philadelphia 76ers
Philadelphia has one first round pick and a whopping five second round selections.
Jahlil Okafor
4 New York Knicks
The Lottery didn't go as they wanted, but there will still be plenty of talent available at No. 4.
Kristaps Porzingis
5 Orlando Magic
In need of perimeter scoring, power forward Kristaps Porzingis could be the best bet.
Mario Hezonja
6 Sacramento Kings
The Kings could be in good position to find the ideal Cousins compliment in Cauley-Stein.
Wilie Cauley-Stein
7 Denver Nuggets
In need of shooters, the Nuggets will have a handful of interesting options in play.
Emmanuel Mudiay
8 Detroit Pistons
Mario Hezonja or Winslow could be the way to go for a team lacking shooters.
Stanley Johnson F Arizona
9 Charlotte Hornets
Do the Hornets go with a power forward again, or go for the shooter they need?
Frank Kaminsky
10 Miami Heat
Miami's pick here depends on if Pat Riley believes Hassan Whiteside is the real deal.
Justise Winslow
11 Indiana Pacers
In need of offense and a shooter, Devin Booker would be the ideal pick here.
Myles Turner
12 Utah Jazz
Utah will be looking to add some more offense, possibly in the form of a stretch four.
Trey Lyles
13 Phoenix Suns
The Suns could be looking at a power forward, so there will be plenty of options.
Devin Booker
14 Oklahoma City Thunder
Finding a dependable backup for Russell Westbrook could be the way to go here.
Murray State guard Cameron Payne
15 Atlanta Hawks
Should Atlanta be looking to protect itself from free agency losses? (From Brooklyn)
Kelly Oubre traded to Washington for the No. 19 pick tonight and two future second-round picks.
16 Boston Celtics
Brad Stevens needs to add prospects on both ends of the floor to his stable.
Terry Rozier Louisville
17 Milwaukee Bucks
The Bucks would love to add another scorer to their young stable.
Rashad Vaughn UNLV
18 Houston Rockets
Is the possible backup point guard solution out there for Houston? (From New Orleans)
Sam Dekker
19 Washington Wizards Traded to Atlanta along with 2 future 2nd rounders for Kelly Oubre.
Is there a right fit at this spot to go alongside the team's thrilling backcourt?
Jerian Grant- traded to the Knicks for Tim Hardaway Jr.
20 Toronto Raptors
The Raptors need a shakeup badly, and will be looking for a youngster that can step up.
Delon Wright Utah
21 Dallas Mavericks
Forever getting older, Dallas could use youth in the front and backcourts.
Justin Anderson
22 Chicago Bulls
Will Chicago's new coach start molding his new team with a college face he knows well?
Bobby Portis
23 Portland Trail Blazers
Do the Blazers need a contigency plan if LaMarcus Aldridge leaves via free agnecy?
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
24 Cleveland Cavaliers
The Cavs are always looking for shooters who can create space for LeBron James.
Tyus Jones will be traded to the Timberwolves
25 Memphis Grizzlies
Memphis might look to start replacing its aging big men with a project here.
Jarell Martin
26 San Antonio Spurs
San Antonio is always reloading from odd places. Do they go overseas again?
Nikola Milutinov
27 Los Angeles Lakers
After scoring big early, the Lakers will look to fill out the roster. (From Houston)
Larry Nance Jr.
28 Boston Celtics
The playoff berth proved that the rebuilding project is ahead of schedule.(From Clippers)
R.J. Hunter
29 Brooklyn Nets
This pick was swapped with Atlanta in the Joe Johnson trade. (From Atlanta)
Chris McCullough
30 Golden State Warriors
Kevon Looney

Hootie · 07-02-2015, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26

Gasol/Kobe was a super team?

I might give you Boston, but those guys were nearing the end of their prime so I don't really have a problem with that.

No, moron. I am talking about the time Malone and Payton came to play for the Lakers on veteran minimum contracts to try and build a "dream team" super team so that Malone and Payton could win titles.

I actively cheered against LeBron and the Heat year 1, too ... because I thought it was ****ing stupid. Just like I did when Boston acquired Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett.

The NBA needs a franchise tag so guys like Carmello, LeBron, Dwight, etc... stop being able to have all of the leverage over an entire franchise and force franchises to trade $1 pieces for a couple of $0.25 pieces and 5 nickels ... it's stupid. I hate it.

It's so dumb.

It ruins the integrity of the game.

Hootie · 07-02-2015, 02:03 PM

shit, the Lakers tried doing it, again, with Dwight and Nash.

It's dumb.

Franchise tag needs to be in the NBA.

Tag a player, and he gets a max 1 year deal + 20%. Tag a player for a 2nd year, +30%. 3rd year? +40%. 4th year? UFA

staylor26 · 07-02-2015, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

No, moron. I am talking about the time Malone and Payton came to play for the Lakers on veteran minimum contracts to try and build a "dream team" super team so that Malone and Payton could win titles.

I actively cheered against LeBron and the Heat year 1, too ... because I thought it was ****ing stupid. Just like I did when Boston acquired Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett.

The NBA needs a franchise tag so guys like Carmello, LeBron, Dwight, etc... stop being able to have all of the leverage over an entire franchise and force franchises to trade $1 pieces for a couple of $0.25 pieces and 5 nickels ... it's stupid. I hate it.

It's so dumb.

It ruins the integrity of the game.

Are you a seriously comparing that to the Heat/Cavs super teams?

and I'm the moron? How the **** does guys that are out of their primes taking less for one last shot to get a ring compare to building a super team with the best player in the world and two other all-stars in their prime?

CaliforniaChief · 07-02-2015, 02:21 PM

The Lakers managed to get another meeting with Aldridge. They are really not good at this free agent game, but kudos for getting a mulligan.

Hootie · 07-02-2015, 02:24 PM

when the Lakers added Malone and Payton, EVERYONE considered it to be a foregone conclusion the Lakers would be winning the title. Everyone. They were HEAVY Vegas favorites. Malone was fresh off a 21/8/5/2 season (isn't this better than Chris Bosh has ever been) and signs for the vet min. And Payton ... oh, no big deal, 21/5/9/2 season.

Two guys. Vet minimum.

20/8/5/2
21/5/9/2

Combining with Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal.

But yep, staylor ... putting 4 hall of famers together who were all fresh off of All-NBA seasons ... nope, no super team

god damn

Hootie · 07-02-2015, 02:27 PM

Gary Payton was 2 years removed from being on the All-NBA 2nd team, and Malone was 3 years removed from being on the All-NBA 3rd team.

20/8/5/2
21/5/9/2

AND GARY PAYTON MADE THE ALL-NBA DEFENSIVE 1ST TEAM THE YEAR PRIOR TO JOINING THE LAKERS.

Yep.

You're right. Not comparable to the Heat, at all.

Hootie · 07-02-2015, 02:29 PM

It was even worse than what the Heat, did ... because you took two guys, Payton and Malone, who PURPOSELY came to LAL, took NO money, with the idea of stealing an easy championship to pad their careers so that they could look back and say, "nuh uh! we got 1!"

That was and will always be deplorable and I hate the fact the NBA can allow mega rich guys like that 'outs' to get UNDESERVED titles to pad their HOF resumes. ****ing stupid.

I am so glad that blew up in their faces.

Hootie · 07-02-2015, 02:31 PM

http://www.nba.com/lakers/news/payto...ne_030716.html

Yep. Clearly past their primes, especially Payton !

staylor26 · 07-02-2015, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

when the Lakers added Malone and Payton, EVERYONE considered it to be a foregone conclusion the Lakers would be winning the title. Everyone. They were HEAVY Vegas favorites. Malone was fresh off a 21/8/5/2 season (isn't this better than Chris Bosh has ever been) and signs for the vet min. And Payton ... oh, no big deal, 21/5/9/2 season.

Two guys. Vet minimum.

20/8/5/2
21/5/9/2

Combining with Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal.

But yep, staylor ... putting 4 hall of famers together who were all fresh off of All-NBA seasons ... nope, no super team

god damn

I understand your point, but it was nothing like the Heat/Cavs or even the Celtics for that matter. Payton was in his 13th season and Malone was in his 18th. Do you really think that's the same thing as Lebron/Wade/Bosh/Allen teaming up or Lebron/Kyrie/Love?

Hootie · 07-02-2015, 02:33 PM

In the 2003 offseason, the Lakers made major changes, with initially varying results. Needing to find a point guard and a power forward to defend against Tim Duncan and the Spurs, the Lakers signed veteran stars Gary Payton and Karl Malone for well below market value; they also hoped to give both veterans their first championship ring. The Lakers were afterwards considered the favorites to win the NBA title.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E..._Lakers_season

Hootie · 07-02-2015, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26

I understand your point, but it was nothing like the Heat/Cavs or even the Celtics for that matter. Payton was in his 13th season and Malone was in his 18th. Do you really think that's the same thing as Lebron/Wade/Bosh/Allen teaming up or Lebron/Kyrie/Love?

No, I think it is much, much, much worse, actually. And I hate both of these things. I literally hated LeBron for an entire 2 years after the decision because I think it's so ****ing stupid these "stars" team up to make things easier. It also rarely ever works. Boston is really the exception. LeBron was probably going to win no matter what he did since he ended up dragging a washed up Wade and a useless Bosh to two titles.

As the article quoted, the Lakers signed Malone and Payton to WELL BELOW MARKET VALUE to win a title and GET THOSE TWO THEIR FIRST TITLES.

It's deplorable, and it shouldn't be allowed. I ****ing hate it. It's bad for the game, and it makes half of the NBA teams UNWATCHABLE.

staylor26 · 07-02-2015, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

No, I think it is much, much, much worse, actually. And I hate both of these things. I literally hated LeBron for an entire 2 years after the decision because I think it's so ****ing stupid these "stars" team up to make things easier. It also rarely ever works. Boston is really the exception. LeBron was probably going to win no matter what he did since he ended up dragging a washed up Wade and a useless Bosh to two titles.

As the article quoted, the Lakers signed Malone and Payton to WELL BELOW MARKET VALUE to win a title and GET THOSE TWO THEIR FIRST TITLES.

It's deplorable, and it shouldn't be allowed. I ****ing hate it. It's bad for the game, and it makes half of the NBA teams UNWATCHABLE.

The thing is that's for a season or two at best. Doing it when the guys are in their prime (like the Heat/Cavs) puts that team in the championship every year for 4 straight years. I'm sorry but you have to be a ****ing idiot to not see the difference.

Also, Lebron did it in the East making it that much easier. Come on man

**Perineum Ripper** · 07-02-2015, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

No, I think it is much, much, much worse, actually. And I hate both of these things. I literally hated LeBron for an entire 2 years after the decision because I think it's so ****ing stupid these "stars" team up to make things easier. It also rarely ever works. Boston is really the exception. LeBron was probably going to win no matter what he did since he ended up dragging a washed up Wade and a useless Bosh to two titles.

As the article quoted, the Lakers signed Malone and Payton to WELL BELOW MARKET VALUE to win a title and GET THOSE TWO THEIR FIRST TITLES.

It's deplorable, and it shouldn't be allowed. I ****ing hate it. It's bad for the game, and it makes half of the NBA teams UNWATCHABLE.

Why do you think it is worse..not being a dick honestly curious

staylor26 · 07-02-2015, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac459

Why do you think it is worse..not being a dick honestly curious

Bc he's a bias Lebron dick rider

**Perineum Ripper** · 07-02-2015, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26

Bc he's a bias Lebron dick rider

I get what he is saying about the contract part..I'm just not seeing how adding a 40 something Malone and a mid to late 30 Payton is worse than bringing in young players to stack a team for playoff runs

06-23-2015, 07:43 PM
Al Bundy Damnit Peg Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $5211831	Official NBA 2015 Off-Season NBA Draft June 25th. 1Minnesota Timberwolves Lottery luck means Minnesota can take either Okafor or Towns to solidfy the middle. Karl Anthony Towns 2 Los Angeles Lakers See above. Whichever elite big man is left after Minnesota picks is likely headed to L.A. D'Angelo Russell. 3 Philadelphia 76ers Philadelphia has one first round pick and a whopping five second round selections. Jahlil Okafor 4 New York Knicks The Lottery didn't go as they wanted, but there will still be plenty of talent available at No. 4. Kristaps Porzingis 5 Orlando Magic In need of perimeter scoring, power forward Kristaps Porzingis could be the best bet. Mario Hezonja 6 Sacramento Kings The Kings could be in good position to find the ideal Cousins compliment in Cauley-Stein. Wilie Cauley-Stein 7 Denver Nuggets In need of shooters, the Nuggets will have a handful of interesting options in play. Emmanuel Mudiay 8 Detroit Pistons Mario Hezonja or Winslow could be the way to go for a team lacking shooters. Stanley Johnson F Arizona 9 Charlotte Hornets Do the Hornets go with a power forward again, or go for the shooter they need? Frank Kaminsky 10 Miami Heat Miami's pick here depends on if Pat Riley believes Hassan Whiteside is the real deal. Justise Winslow 11 Indiana Pacers In need of offense and a shooter, Devin Booker would be the ideal pick here. Myles Turner 12 Utah Jazz Utah will be looking to add some more offense, possibly in the form of a stretch four. Trey Lyles 13 Phoenix Suns The Suns could be looking at a power forward, so there will be plenty of options. Devin Booker 14 Oklahoma City Thunder Finding a dependable backup for Russell Westbrook could be the way to go here. Murray State guard Cameron Payne 15 Atlanta Hawks Should Atlanta be looking to protect itself from free agency losses? (From Brooklyn) Kelly Oubre traded to Washington for the No. 19 pick tonight and two future second-round picks. 16 Boston Celtics Brad Stevens needs to add prospects on both ends of the floor to his stable. Terry Rozier Louisville 17 Milwaukee Bucks The Bucks would love to add another scorer to their young stable. Rashad Vaughn UNLV 18 Houston Rockets Is the possible backup point guard solution out there for Houston? (From New Orleans) Sam Dekker 19 Washington Wizards Traded to Atlanta along with 2 future 2nd rounders for Kelly Oubre. Is there a right fit at this spot to go alongside the team's thrilling backcourt? Jerian Grant- traded to the Knicks for Tim Hardaway Jr. 20 Toronto Raptors The Raptors need a shakeup badly, and will be looking for a youngster that can step up. Delon Wright Utah 21 Dallas Mavericks Forever getting older, Dallas could use youth in the front and backcourts. Justin Anderson 22 Chicago Bulls Will Chicago's new coach start molding his new team with a college face he knows well? Bobby Portis 23 Portland Trail Blazers Do the Blazers need a contigency plan if LaMarcus Aldridge leaves via free agnecy? Rondae Hollis-Jefferson 24 Cleveland Cavaliers The Cavs are always looking for shooters who can create space for LeBron James. Tyus Jones will be traded to the Timberwolves 25 Memphis Grizzlies Memphis might look to start replacing its aging big men with a project here. Jarell Martin 26 San Antonio Spurs San Antonio is always reloading from odd places. Do they go overseas again? Nikola Milutinov 27 Los Angeles Lakers After scoring big early, the Lakers will look to fill out the roster. (From Houston) Larry Nance Jr. 28 Boston Celtics The playoff berth proved that the rebuilding project is ahead of schedule.(From Clippers) R.J. Hunter 29 Brooklyn Nets This pick was swapped with Atlanta in the Joe Johnson trade. (From Atlanta) Chris McCullough 30 Golden State Warriors Kevon Looney Last edited by Al Bundy; 06-25-2015 at 08:55 PM..
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07-02-2015, 02:03 PM	#317
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	shit, the Lakers tried doing it, again, with Dwight and Nash. It's dumb. Franchise tag needs to be in the NBA. Tag a player, and he gets a max 1 year deal + 20%. Tag a player for a 2nd year, +30%. 3rd year? +40%. 4th year? UFA
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07-02-2015, 02:21 PM	#319
CaliforniaChief #RIPAce Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: So Cal Casino cash: $12262899	The Lakers managed to get another meeting with Aldridge. They are really not good at this free agent game, but kudos for getting a mulligan.
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07-02-2015, 02:24 PM	#320
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	when the Lakers added Malone and Payton, EVERYONE considered it to be a foregone conclusion the Lakers would be winning the title. Everyone. They were HEAVY Vegas favorites. Malone was fresh off a 21/8/5/2 season (isn't this better than Chris Bosh has ever been) and signs for the vet min. And Payton ... oh, no big deal, 21/5/9/2 season. Two guys. Vet minimum. 20/8/5/2 21/5/9/2 Combining with Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal. But yep, staylor ... putting 4 hall of famers together who were all fresh off of All-NBA seasons ... nope, no super team god damn
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07-02-2015, 02:27 PM	#321
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Gary Payton was 2 years removed from being on the All-NBA 2nd team, and Malone was 3 years removed from being on the All-NBA 3rd team. 20/8/5/2 21/5/9/2 AND GARY PAYTON MADE THE ALL-NBA DEFENSIVE 1ST TEAM THE YEAR PRIOR TO JOINING THE LAKERS. Yep. You're right. Not comparable to the Heat, at all.
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07-02-2015, 02:29 PM	#322
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	It was even worse than what the Heat, did ... because you took two guys, Payton and Malone, who PURPOSELY came to LAL, took NO money, with the idea of stealing an easy championship to pad their careers so that they could look back and say, "nuh uh! we got 1!" That was and will always be deplorable and I hate the fact the NBA can allow mega rich guys like that 'outs' to get UNDESERVED titles to pad their HOF resumes. ****ing stupid. I am so glad that blew up in their faces.
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07-02-2015, 02:31 PM	#323
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	http://www.nba.com/lakers/news/payto...ne_030716.html Yep. Clearly past their primes, especially Payton !
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07-02-2015, 02:33 PM	#325
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	In the 2003 offseason, the Lakers made major changes, with initially varying results. Needing to find a point guard and a power forward to defend against Tim Duncan and the Spurs, the Lakers signed veteran stars Gary Payton and Karl Malone for well below market value; they also hoped to give both veterans their first championship ring. The Lakers were afterwards considered the favorites to win the NBA title. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E..._Lakers_season
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