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Old 04-06-2013, 12:27 PM   #1
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The truth is that the idiot took 19 shots a game to get those 20 points and shot 41 percent from the field, just like how all of McCluster's catches came as seven yard dump-offs.
Exactly what do you think Reid's offense is? McCluster could be the key feature on HB screens, slants from the slot, and draws from a 4 WR set.
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Old 04-06-2013, 12:41 PM   #2
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Exactly what do you think Reid's offense is? McCluster could be the key feature on HB screens, slants from the slot, and draws from a 4 WR set.
I'd rather a guy like with some speed, some actual ability to make people miss, to read blocks, and to break a tackle every now and then, get those touches.

Sure wish we had someone like that on the roster.
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I'd rather a guy like with some speed, some actual ability to make people miss, to read blocks, and to break a tackle every now and then, get those touches.

Sure wish we had someone like that on the roster.
Don't worry . we'll have Manziel soon.
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Exactly what do you think Reid's offense is? McCluster could be the key feature on HB screens, slants from the slot, and draws from a 4 WR set.
Yeah, I'd rather just see Jamaal take on those responsibilities.
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Old 04-06-2013, 12:49 PM   #6
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Yeah, I'd rather just see Jamaal take on those responsibilities.
McCluster's value, if he ever realizes it, is completely different from what Charles and Wylie offer. He is not supposed to a substitute for Charles or Wylie.
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Old 04-06-2013, 01:17 PM   #7
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McCluster's value, if he ever realizes it, is completely different from what Charles and Wylie offer. He is not supposed to a substitute for Charles or Wylie.
He has no value. Guys who 1. Don't make plays and 2. Turn the ball over at an absurd rate are worthless.

He's also suffered horrible injuries two of his three seasons in the league. If you think that's going to get better as he gets older, roll another blunt.
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He has no value. Guys who 1. Don't make plays and 2. Turn the ball over at an absurd rate are worthless.

He's also suffered horrible injuries two of his three seasons in the league. If you think that's going to get better as he gets older, roll another blunt.
I don't like the guy but how many turn overs did he actually have?

And I'm not talking about in your mind.
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I don't like the guy but how many turn overs did he actually have?
He caused 7 turnovers.

There is absolutely zero question.

If you actually go back and rewatch the games you'd know this.

PFF credited him with 7 turnovers, too.
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He caused 7 turnovers.

There is absolutely zero question.

If you actually go back and rewatch the games you'd know this.

PFF credited him with 7 turnovers, too.
lol. Did you count the balls that went off bowe's hands and were ints as caused by Bowe as well?

I could give a **** less about pff too.

Now how many turnovers did he actually have?
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He has no value. Guys who 1. Don't make plays and 2. Turn the ball over at an absurd rate are worthless.

He's also suffered horrible injuries two of his three seasons in the league. If you think that's going to get better as he gets older, roll another blunt.
He has to learn how to take care of the ball, become a better route runner, develop better receiving instincts, and show better hands. I will agree with you on all these fronts.

I don't agree with anyone who says because we have Charles, McCluster has no value. Charles is a pure screen receiver. McCluster is a guy who can comfortably play both RB and WR. That's especially important in a spread offense and on third downs, and could be very effective in the no huddle. In a pure spread, you have 4-5 WRs. With McCluster, one of those guys can comfortably flex into a RB position. Furthermore, when Weis used him, he was constantly motioning him around in the backfield to give off the illusion that we could be running the ball in a different direction. When a defense starts spying out a potential toss left to McCluster, and they end up handing off to Charles right, that is enough to keep the defense on their toes.

But to succeed... look I don't disagree that he has to get a LOT better. I think it's nonsense when people say the talent is not there. It's there, it's just not very well used, both because he often doesn't have space and when he does, he either isn't confidently running at full speed or doesn't yet know how to use his vision or moves to make people miss. Or when they say Charles does his job, but better. Of course Charles is and always will be a lot better, but when McCluster operated in Weis' offense, there was good reason for both to be on the field.
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doesn't yet know how to use his vision or moves to make people miss.


LOL at a guy coming into the league and getting better at making people miss.

Guys with that skill are as good as they'll ever be the minute they get in the league.

Dex is gonna suck ass for a 4th straight year and I'm gonna shove it up your bunghole.
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LOL at a guy coming into the league and getting better at making people miss.

Guys with that skill are as good as they'll ever be the minute they get in the league.

Dex is gonna suck ass for a 4th straight year and I'm gonna shove it up your bunghole.
That is complete bullshit. Right now, he runs tentative at times and get overly cute other times. Good coaching can definitely help him to be smarter and more confident in how he approaches downfield running.

To your last comment... I don't think McCluster is a very good player right now, so don't know where you're going with that. I think there's a good chance he'll be average or much worse under Reid. I just don't buy the BS that there is zero chance he'll get better because there's nothing there to develop.
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Exactly what do you think Reid's offense is? McCluster could be the key feature on HB screens, slants from the slot, and draws from a 4 WR set.
Or that could be a HB w/ better hands, speed, agility, and strength: Jamaal Charles.
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