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McCluster could be Andy Reidís secret weapon

KANSAS CITY, Mo. Ė If anyone in the Chiefsí offense should be excited about the arrival of new coach Andy Reid, it would be Dexter McCluster.

The diminutive McCluster (5 feet 8, 170 pounds) was drafted in 2010 as a multi-purpose weapon, which he was that season with the Chiefs with Todd Haley as coach and Charlie Weis as offensive coordinator.

As a rookie, McCluster caught 21 passes for 209 yards, returned 13 punts (including a 94-yarder for a touchdown), returned 26 kickoffs for 527 yards and rushed 18 times for 71 yards (six of those rushes went for first downs).

And with Weis gone in 2011 but his system still in place, McCluster caught 46 passes for 328 yards and ran 114 times for 516 yards, along with his punt and kickoff return duties.

But that versatility screeched to a halt under new coach Romeo Crennel and new offensive coordinator Brain Daboll in 2012. McCluster was virtually eliminated from the return game, rushed only 12 times all season, and was used almost exclusively as a slot receiver.

Reid already has vowed he will use McCluster much like Weis did Ė in a variety of roles.

"Heís a unique talent because he can do a few different things for you, whether itís special teams as a returner, or whether itís offense as a receiver or a running back," Reid said. "You saw what Charlie [Weis] did with him the one year where he kind of mixed him in the different positions offensively and he can handle that. Heís a sharp kid. Obviously heís a talented kid."

Reid wouldnít take the bait when asked why anyone would reduce McClusterís role as much as the Chiefs did last year.

"He was banged up just a bit and he played through it," Reid said, stone-faced. "I think that storyís been told. He was really put in one position as a slot receiver. I think his value Ė and itís a tribute to him Ė is that you can move him into different spots where you can utilize his talents the best.

"I know heís a tough kid and I know heís a hard worker. So weíll try to put him in positions where we can exploit what he does best or what we feel he does best."

Reid, in fact, liked McCluster so much that he wanted to make him an Eagle in 2010.

"You know what, I was interested in drafting him, it just didnít fall that way," Reid said. "But I did have some interest. I liked him as a football player."

McCluster said he wasnít aware the Eagles were ready to draft him. The Eagles were one spot behind the Chiefs when Kansas City took McCluster with the 36th overall pick. The Eagles wound up with safety Nate Allen at No. 37.

"I had no idea," McCluster said. "Itís nice to know. But I didnít visit them or anything."

But McCluster is ready to get acquainted with the Reid offense.

"I have not gone back and watched any film from Coach Reid," McCluster said. "But as a person that watches football, Iíve seen the success his offense has brought. He knows offense."

Reid already has told McCluster changes are coming in how he will be used.

"I know he said he wants to use me in multiple places," McCluster said. "Thatís the type of player I am and the type of player Iíve always been.

"Now Iíll have the opportunity to showcase my talents and what I do best."

And if McCluster were suddenly anointed the offensive coordinator, how would he utilize his talents?

"Oh, man, I donít know," he said, laughing. "My best role is to keep the defense on their toes. Move me around. Keep them guessing."

First things first: McCluster and the Chiefs will have to rid themselves of any recollection of 2012 and the 2-14 record.

"Honestly, me personally, I erased it from my memory the minute the season was over," he said. "Yes, itís definitely a new beginning. There are a lot of people that look like theyíre ready to go.

"I feel like itís going to be a good change."

It certainly should be for McCluster.

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Reid has big plans for McCluster
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
Andy Reid wanted to draft Dexter McCluster in 2010, when Reid coached the Philadelphia Eagles and McCluster was coming out of college at Mississippi.

The Chiefs got to McCluster instead, taking him with a pick early in the second round. But itís no coincidence that one of Reidís favorite topics since joining the Chiefs in January as their new coach is McCluster and what he can do for the Chiefs on offense as a receiver and a runner and on special teams.

ďHeís not the biggest guy in the world, but heís got a heart of a lion,Ē Reid said. ďHeís got that Ö tremendous quickness and can catch. Heís pretty good at running the football, so there is a place for him. You line him up everywhere. You can move him around and kind of do some unique things with him.

ďI like McCluster. I think heís a good football player and he has a role on this football team. Iíve got some things in mind for him.Ē

This wouldnít be the first time that the Chiefs had big plans for McCluster. But he has only infrequently lived up to them.

His signature play from his three seasons with the Chiefs came in his first regular-season game when he returned a punt for a touchdown to spark a victory over San Diego. Otherwise, McCluster has 119 catches, 657 rushing yards and four touchdowns, but few big plays of the game-changing variety.

Reid and offensive coordinator Doug Pederson may not be able to get anything more from McCluster, though it sounds as if they will try.

ďI was interested in drafting him,Ē Reid said. ďIt just didnít fall that way. But I did have some interest. I liked him as a football player. Heís a unique talent because he can do a couple, three different things for you whether itís special teams as a returner or whether itís offense as a receiver or a running back.

ďHis value Ö is that you can move him into different spots where you can utilize his talents the best. You saw what Charlie (Weis) did with him the one year when he kind of mixed him in the different positions offensively. He can handle it. Heís a sharp kid. Obviously heís a talented kid.Ē

For his part, McCluster thought the Eagles might draft him in 2010. He said that at the time he had never met Reid and didnít visit the Eagles in Philadelphia before the draft but ďthere were rumors circulating that he had some interest in me.Ē

Reid will be McClusterís third head coach and Pederson his fourth offensive coordinator. While the others generally kept McCluster at a certain position for an entire season ó he lined up mostly as a receiver in 2010 and 2012 and a running back in 2011 ó the Chiefs donít plan a specific role for McCluster.

That suits him well.

ďKeeping the defense on their toes,Ē McCluster said. ďMove me around, make a headache for the defense. He said he wants to use me in multiple places. Thatís the type of player I am and thatís the type of player Iíve been. Now I have the opportunity to showcase what I can really do.Ē

McCluster said heís as frustrated as anyone that he hasnít delivered more big plays. He played in all 16 games the past two seasons and was the Chiefsí second-leading rusher in 2011 and their second-leading pass receiver last season.

But he said a better test of what he was capable of would come this season.

ďI would just say opportunity,Ē McCluster said when asked why he hasnít been the player the Chiefs, and apparently Reid, envisioned when he was drafted. ďOpportunity has been limited. Iím not a guy thatís always complaining how I want the ball and I need the ball. The chips are going to fall into place. Iíve been saying this for a couple of years now: When itís my time, itís going to be my time. Thatís my mind-set. Iím going to go out there and Iím going to grind. The world will know when Dexter McCluster is out there.Ē

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Old 04-06-2013, 01:35 PM   #76
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Exactly what do you think Reid's offense is? McCluster could be the key feature on HB screens, slants from the slot, and draws from a 4 WR set.
Or that could be a HB w/ better hands, speed, agility, and strength: Jamaal Charles.
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Old 04-06-2013, 01:48 PM   #77
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There are a million and a half clips where he outruns defenders on a home run run, between college and the pros. The idea that he is slow is laughable and something haters want to use in their crusade against the guy.

There's a lot of stuff I don't like about McCluster and that could seriously limit how good he ever becomes. Speed and ability to make people miss aren't on that list. Has he used those things as well as he should? Absolutely not.
I watched a shit load of You Tube stuff when McCluster was in wide open spaces with no one near enough to catch him, and he wasn't making anyone miss.

He got lost by defenders because of his stature.

He did nothing special.

And that has played out against the superior talent that he's faced in the NFL.
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Old 04-06-2013, 01:59 PM   #78
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He has no value. Guys who 1. Don't make plays and 2. Turn the ball over at an absurd rate are worthless.

He's also suffered horrible injuries two of his three seasons in the league. If you think that's going to get better as he gets older, roll another blunt.
I don't like the guy but how many turn overs did he actually have?

And I'm not talking about in your mind.
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I don't like the guy but how many turn overs did he actually have?
He caused 7 turnovers.

There is absolutely zero question.

If you actually go back and rewatch the games you'd know this.

PFF credited him with 7 turnovers, too.
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He caused 7 turnovers.

There is absolutely zero question.

If you actually go back and rewatch the games you'd know this.

PFF credited him with 7 turnovers, too.
lol. Did you count the balls that went off bowe's hands and were ints as caused by Bowe as well?

I could give a **** less about pff too.

Now how many turnovers did he actually have?
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lol. Did you count the balls that went off bowe's hands and were ints as caused by Bowe as well?
Bowe is the 2nd chocolatiest penis on our team, so why is that relevant.

When a perfectly thrown ball hits McCluster in the hands and it turns into an INT, that's on him.

Now climb a burning AIDS tree.
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Bowe is the 2nd chocolatiest penis on our team, so why is that relevant.

When a perfectly thrown ball hits McCluster in the hands and it turns into an INT, that's on him.

Now climb a burning AIDS tree.
it's relevant because if a ball goes off Mccluster's hands is int and that's on him it should be counted against Bowe in the same situation. Which you do not.

Hypocritical. Imo
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it's relevant because if a ball goes off Mccluster's hands is int and that's on him it should be counted against Bowe in the same situation. Which you do not.

Hypocritical. Imo
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Shame on Dwayne Bowe for the interceptions he causes.

Good thing he also, you know, makes plays.

You suck at debate.
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I'd rather a guy like with some speed, some actual ability to make people miss, to read blocks, and to break a tackle every now and then, get those touches.

Sure wish we had someone like that on the roster.
Don't worry . we'll have Manziel soon.
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I watched a shit load of You Tube stuff when McCluster was in wide open spaces with no one near enough to catch him, and he wasn't making anyone miss.

He got lost by defenders because of his stature.

He did nothing special.

And that has played out against the superior talent that he's faced in the NFL.
The idea that he was a playmaker and got as many yards as he did in the SEC because of purely unbelievably blocking and wide open space with no defender within a mile of him is disingenuous.

He was a highlight reel. On most highlights, he outruns a defender by a mile where many typical players get caught (it's what happens when one guy is holding a ball and looking for lanes/blocks, while the guy trailing can pure sprint). In many highlights, you see a very quick, sudden change of direction and that's backed by his outstanding 3-cone time at the combine.

I agree he hasn't been able to make it work on the NFL level yet. But there's a difference between saying it hasn't worked and that the talent never existed in the first place.
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Remember what Dick Vermiel did for Dante Hall.

Reid will do that for McCluster.
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The idea that he was a playmaker and got as many yards as he did in the SEC because of purely unbelievably blocking and wide open space with no defender within a mile of him is disingenuous.

He was a highlight reel. On most highlights, he outruns a defender by a mile where many typical players get caught (it's what happens when one guy is holding a ball and looking for lanes/blocks, while the guy trailing can pure sprint). In many highlights, you see a very quick, sudden change of direction and that's backed by his outstanding 3-cone time at the combine.

I agree he hasn't been able to make it work on the NFL level yet. But there's a difference between saying it hasn't worked and that the talent never existed in the first place.
Doesn't matter. He's had plenty of chances. Making excuses based on QB play or whatever is just assholery. Good players at least show flashes in bad situations. McCluster just sucks (good game against Atlanta though, jerk to that).
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He has no value. Guys who 1. Don't make plays and 2. Turn the ball over at an absurd rate are worthless.

He's also suffered horrible injuries two of his three seasons in the league. If you think that's going to get better as he gets older, roll another blunt.
He has to learn how to take care of the ball, become a better route runner, develop better receiving instincts, and show better hands. I will agree with you on all these fronts.

I don't agree with anyone who says because we have Charles, McCluster has no value. Charles is a pure screen receiver. McCluster is a guy who can comfortably play both RB and WR. That's especially important in a spread offense and on third downs, and could be very effective in the no huddle. In a pure spread, you have 4-5 WRs. With McCluster, one of those guys can comfortably flex into a RB position. Furthermore, when Weis used him, he was constantly motioning him around in the backfield to give off the illusion that we could be running the ball in a different direction. When a defense starts spying out a potential toss left to McCluster, and they end up handing off to Charles right, that is enough to keep the defense on their toes.

But to succeed... look I don't disagree that he has to get a LOT better. I think it's nonsense when people say the talent is not there. It's there, it's just not very well used, both because he often doesn't have space and when he does, he either isn't confidently running at full speed or doesn't yet know how to use his vision or moves to make people miss. Or when they say Charles does his job, but better. Of course Charles is and always will be a lot better, but when McCluster operated in Weis' offense, there was good reason for both to be on the field.
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