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PED don't matter, he paid the price, HOF! 18 26.47%
"*" 47 69.12%
Gaz made him do it! 0 0%
Who is A-Rod? 3 4.41%
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Old 06-20-2015, 08:25 AM  
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A-Rod, HOF or "*"
After seeing that he got his 3000th hit I was dejected. Perhaps that's because I don't like the Yankees, perhaps it's because I don't think any of the hits in his PED years should count (so he's way behind 3000). No matter what, I just think it's a terrible message to send to kids/young players that PEDs will cost you a little something, but when all is said and done the league will act like it never happened.
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Old 06-21-2015, 11:41 AM   #106
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I'd like to see some of the numbers from the guys back in the day if they took away their "greenies"
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Old 06-21-2015, 11:45 AM   #107
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Lol. God, they hate him.
Everyone hates him because he questioned people's intelligence by continuing to claim his innocence when his guilt was spread out on a silver platter for everyone to see. Same shit for Bonds. Same shit for Braun.
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Old 06-21-2015, 03:10 PM   #108
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Old 06-21-2015, 03:41 PM   #109
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I can't wait until someone just comes out and embraces the steroid use. "Yes, I used them and they are badass. I'd keep using them if they were legal or if I wouldn't get caught."
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Old 06-21-2015, 03:48 PM   #110
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I can't wait until someone just comes out and embraces the steroid use. "Yes, I used them and they are badass. I'd keep using them if they were legal or if I wouldn't get caught."
I think that's just short of what some players will do after this. If he goes in the HOF with no sort of asterisk, why would a player not try? And perhaps not to get to 3000,but maybe to possibly extend his paychecks for a few more years. The latter is actually a very plausible scenario. What's the downside Rick in that. Nothing (unless you have some morality). So high school and college players aren't the MLB's problem, but I think every kid in high school and college have a better idea of what the playing field looks like.
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Old 06-21-2015, 03:55 PM   #111
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I think that's just short of what some players will do after this. If he goes in the HOF with no sort of asterisk, why would a player not try? And perhaps not to get to 3000,but maybe to possibly extend his paychecks for a few more years. The latter is actually a very plausible scenario. What's the downside Rick in that. Nothing (unless you have some morality). So high school and college players aren't the MLB's problem, but I think every kid in high school and college have a better idea of what the playing field looks like.
Just as long as MLB makes it easier to void contracts based on performance that was under PED's when they get caught.
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Old 06-21-2015, 04:02 PM   #112
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He wont get in. They set the precedent with the others and Palmeiro falling off the Ballet was the closest to ARod stat wise.. It will be a all or nothing, they will keep them out or they will go back and let them all in..
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Old 06-21-2015, 04:11 PM   #113
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He wont get in. They set the precedent with the others and Palmeiro falling off the Ballet was the closest to ARod stat wise.. It will be a all or nothing, they will keep them out or they will go back and let them all in..
We'll see. 3,000 was an automatic for HOF. But if that's true, good.
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Old 06-21-2015, 04:13 PM   #114
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We'll see. 3,000 was an automatic for HOF. But if that's true, good.
You'll know long before Alex is even eligible. Bonds and Clemens still remain on the outside looking in.
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That hasn't stopped people from speculating that steroids was a major contributor to home run gains. I don't see you calling them out. PEDs have been around for a while. Despite that, there are still curious eras where home run totals either liven or deaden. Not by a little. By a pretty significant amount.

The idea that some of that wasn't influenced by the ball especially at a time when the MLB was desperate for ratings isn't farfetched whatsoever.
They were a significant contributer. I don't see how it's even debatable.
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Old 06-21-2015, 04:52 PM   #116
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I can't wait until someone just comes out and embraces the steroid use. "Yes, I used them and they are badass. I'd keep using them if they were legal or if I wouldn't get caught."
They don't help anyway/zilla
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They were a significant contributer. I don't see how it's even debatable.

Sorry, but I don't think steroids happened overnight in the early 90's. I think players were juicing way before that time. So if players were always juicing, it doesn't for me explain why all of a sudden players in the early 90's started hitting out of their mind. Not by a little. Overnight HRs spiked... "coincidentally" after baseball hit an all-time popularity low. Of course PEDs increase HRs. But the impact on the steroid era are unbelievably exaggerated.

I've already mentioned expansion era, smaller strike zones, and new stadiums as a huge contributor to HR increases. Given the coincidental timing of the HR surge, fair to ask if a lively ball or improved bat may have contributed to it too.
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Some of those guys basically became incredible hulk over an off season. Not coincidentally they started to bash homers.
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