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Old 10-04-2016, 04:37 PM   #1
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I've been hearing in the years he's been here that "Sutton doesn't make halftime adjustments!"

The only reason people say he doesn't make adjustments is because his defenses might continue to struggle throughout a game. I'd like to see a single defensive coordinator in this league that runs certain formations/concepts in one half, then says to himself, "Hmm. You know what, I've been thinking about this all wrong! If I just change _______ then my defense will actually become all-world and awesome! Whoda thunk it!?"

Criticizing Reid for offensive playcalling is easy because most people are watching offensive plays develop from snap to snap, and very few of them when watching a game in real time will focus on how the defense is picking up on routes and filling in gaps. Now, I'm admittedly not very adept at remembering which coverages we run and how often, but there are an insane amount of people on this forum that wouldn't know Cover-3 from a goddamn grapefruit, and they tend to be the same people who say, "Bob Sutton doesn't make adjustments in the game!" I'm willing to bet Sutton could make his defensive players wear ****ing clown wigs the rest of the game and not one of these assholes would notice it.
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Old 10-06-2016, 07:40 PM   #2
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Criticizing Reid for offensive playcalling is easy because most people are watching offensive plays develop from snap to snap, and very few of them when watching a game in real time will focus on how the defense is picking up on routes and filling in gaps. Now, I'm admittedly not very adept at remembering which coverages we run and how often, but there are an insane amount of people on this forum that wouldn't know Cover-3 from a goddamn grapefruit, and they tend to be the same people who say, "Bob Sutton doesn't make adjustments in the game!" I'm willing to bet Sutton could make his defensive players wear ****ing clown wigs the rest of the game and not one of these assholes would notice it.
Criticizing Reid's playcalling is easy because we have 18 years of the same stupid shit as evidence.

Sutton isn't the problem. The problem starts at the top. The problem is ownership. The problem will never change.
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Old 10-06-2016, 08:38 PM   #3
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Criticizing Reid's playcalling is easy because we have 18 years of the same stupid shit as evidence.

Sutton isn't the problem. The problem starts at the top. The problem is ownership. The problem will never change.
1983. Last QB taken in the 1st to be groomed as the starter. One constant in all those decades. Ownership.

Sadly, the Hunt's wet their beaks early in going to SB 1 & winning 4, and it seems to have satisfied ownership content with keeping a franchise good enough to remain relevant but unwilling to risk reaching for the next level if it means if their gamble doesn't pay off ending up like Jacksonville, no matter how temporary it might be.
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Old 10-04-2016, 05:38 PM   #4
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Yeah... I think Sutton is trash. He's had a defense full of pro bowlers since he arrived and the team rarely holds up against strong offenses. How many times have we seen him trot a young/rookie CB out there, and not be able to adjust when a team starts picking on him?

The Chiefs defense gets by because it has a ton of individual talent turning in great individual performances. It's not a strong unit collectively, in scheme or attitude.

Sutton feasts on bad teams and the individual play of star players.
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Old 10-04-2016, 06:48 PM   #5
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Yeah... I think Sutton is trash. He's had a defense full of pro bowlers since he arrived and the team rarely holds up against strong offenses. How many times have we seen him trot a young/rookie CB out there, and not be able to adjust when a team starts picking on him?

The Chiefs defense gets by because it has a ton of individual talent turning in great individual performances. It's not a strong unit collectively, in scheme or attitude.

Sutton feasts on bad teams and the individual play of star players.
Did you read my post or just post on your own?

Sutton had a bad run at the end of 2013 when Cooper was getting eaten alive with Kendrick Lewis as over the top help. He had a bad run beginning of 2015 for 4 games with rookie Marcus Peters and Sean Smith suspended.

Sutton posted an excellent 2014 defense with Berry, DJ, and Devito out for the season and in a year where they were so desperate for corners they marched out with Fleming and Parker as their two guys. He closed the year decently last year missing Justin Houston, including a dominant performance against Houston in the playoffs. He dominated New England on MNF, solid performances against Pitt 2x and Arizona, dominated San Diego the past 2 years, dominated Detroit in London, excellent performance against Seattle 2 years ago.

He's been good to dominant in 2/3 of his games. And the bad 1/3 came in stretches where he was extremely short-handed.
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Old 10-04-2016, 07:04 PM   #6
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Sean Smith out on injury. Don't recall him begging hurt for 2015.

Something the problem maybe the lack of NFL experience.
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Old 10-04-2016, 07:05 PM   #7
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Sean Smith out on injury. Don't recall him begging hurt for 2015.

Something the problem maybe the lack of NFL experience.
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Old 10-04-2016, 08:57 PM   #8
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Old 10-04-2016, 09:08 PM   #9
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NFL network "I don't know who's idea it was to run cover 0 against one of the best offenses in the NFL, but it wasn't a smart move, Big Ben took advantage of it."
I think the steelers with leveon bell could be one of the most frustrating offenses to game plan for. This looked to me like a game where Suttons game plan was a little frustrating. But I don't know any adjustment would have been much help.
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Old 10-04-2016, 09:29 PM   #10
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NFL network "I don't know who's idea it was to run cover 0 against one of the best offenses in the NFL, but it wasn't a smart move, Big Ben took advantage of it."
Easy to criticize when Houston isn't there to deliver pressure, Tamba isn't even able to make it into even a third of snaps, Gaines is replaced by rookie DJ white and our linebackers got their asses handed to them by Leveon bell.
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NFL network "I don't know who's idea it was to run cover 0 against one of the best offenses in the NFL, but it wasn't a smart move, Big Ben took advantage of it."
Interesting. I've watched every Pitt snap a second time, and KC never ran cover 0 vs any of the deep plays. Not much blitzing at all TBH.
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Old 10-04-2016, 09:03 PM   #12
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Sutton is the absolute best coach on the staff. But he should be fired...time for the planet to banner up and get him gone.
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I personally think that Wade Phillips is by far the best DC in the league right now, and even he wouldn't look quite so bright if Von Miller was on the sidelines right now...

That's the hand Sutton was dealt. Make due without your best player AND very young defensive backs.
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