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Old 11-22-2012, 04:12 PM   #1
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The difference between RG3 and Geno is 4.3 speed vs 4.6 speed and the systems they ran in college. As passers, they are extremely comparable.

So, what I have learned today form ChiefsZilla is that Geno Smith has "major bust potential" because he would have a hard time mastering a pro style offense and because he isnt RG3.

Which he isnt, he is GS3.
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:18 PM   #2
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The difference between RG3 and Geno is 4.3 speed vs 4.6 speed and the systems they ran in college. As passers, they are extremely comparable.

So, what I have learned today form ChiefsZilla is that Geno Smith has "major bust potential" because he would have a hard time mastering a pro style offense and because he isnt RG3.

Which he isnt, he is GS3.
RgIII was a sure thing because his floor was that he would be an out of this world running qb. His upside was to be an out of the world athlete who was also an excellent pocket passer. Geno is going to be a pocket passer who can use his legs if he has to. That is a tremendous difference.

Geno HAS to be not just a good, but a masterful pocket passer. I never said he can't do that. Don't put words in my mouth. I've praised his football iq and work ethic. I've said it is a risk. And when I say bust potential, I am basing that on the idea that anything short of a franchise qb is a bust. Solid starter to me, is a bust.
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:29 PM   #3
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RgIII was a sure thing because his floor was that he would be an out of this world running qb. His upside was to be an out of the world athlete who was also an excellent pocket passer. Geno is going to be a pocket passer who can use his legs if he has to. That is a tremendous difference.

Geno HAS to be not just a good, but a masterful pocket passer. I never said he can't do that. Don't put words in my mouth. I've praised his football iq and work ethic. I've said it is a risk. And when I say bust potential, I am basing that on the idea that anything short of a franchise qb is a bust. Solid starter to me, is a bust.
Well, I guess RG3 has "major bust potential" too because of risk of injury, then.

amirite?
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:31 PM   #4
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Well, I guess RG3 has "major bust potential" too because of risk of injury, then.

amirite?
No. I don't know how that even applies. And rgIII walked into the nfl with a much better pocket passing skill set than geno anyway.
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:14 PM   #5
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he is GS3.
Well...THAT'S the cheesiest thing I've read today.
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:18 PM   #6
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Actually, it is the lacking foot speed of this year's QB draft that makes these players less ideal as top picks. They can all throw a decent pass, some are smarter yadayada, but the need for foot speed has never been greater at the QB position.

Both Luck & RG3 use mobility in their game at this level.
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wow what a pass by RG3. A lil slide and boom!
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Geno isn't the prospect rgIII was. Again, I like geno. But rgIII was a sure thing. Everybody knew it and few disagreed.
How many "sure things" at QB have been drafted in the last 15 years?
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How many "sure things" at QB have been drafted in the last 15 years?
I don't think this matters because I want a qb and geno is my horse.

I am talking about people overhyping the guy and ignoring the reality that in a lackluster class with Barkley nosediving, geno is still not a consensus #1.
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I don't think this matters because I want a qb and geno is my horse.

I am talking about people overhyping the guy and ignoring the reality that in a lackluster class with Barkley nosediving, geno is still not a consensus #1.
Yeah, but my point is that outside of Peyton Manning once in a decade type guys, there is rarely a consensus top QB.
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Yeah, but my point is that outside of Peyton Manning once in a decade type guys, there is rarely a consensus top QB.
Barkley is one of the least impressive top guns we have seen. The point is it should not be hard to replace him as the consensus top qb.
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Manning wasnt even the consensus top QB...not even close.
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IMO Geno is RGIII without the elite scrambling talent.
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IMO Geno is RGIII without the elite scrambling talent.
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IMO Geno is RGIII without the elite scrambling talent.
The reason I said rgIII was sure fire was that... Yeah, I believed rgIIIs floor was at the worst an elite running qb. I believed his most likely upside as to be a big Ben qb that was so elusive in the pocket that he could extend plays even if he couldn't make a lightning quick read.

Genos success will depend on being an elite pocket qb. He has to be elite at pre snap reads. Elite at going through progressions. Elite at making unbelievably fast hot reads, blitz pickups, and getting rid of the ball very quickly. Things he hasn't been asked to do.

RgIII would have succeeded even if he was only average at those things. Geno won't be. Hence, he is a riskier prospect. I like geno. But again, I'm not going to exaggerate his stock.
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