Proof positive that Russell Wilson is a game manager

[GoChargers]

The Seattle Seahawks advanced to the Super Bowl in one of the most improbable comebacks in playoff history. Russell Wilson completed his final five passes, including a game-winning 35-yard touchdown in overtime to Jermaine Kearse.

Before the final five minutes and overtime, however, Wilson was abysmal. He threw a career-high four interceptions and became the second player in the Super Bowl era to win a postseason game with that many picks. Through three quarters, Wilson had a 0.2 Total QBR, and although he increased that number to 13.6 with his late-game heroics, Wilson finished the game with the lowest Total QBR in a postseason win since 2006.

This is not the first time that Seattle has won despite Wilson’s inefficiency. In fact, since 2012, Wilson’s first year in the league, the Seahawks have 15 wins in which their quarterback posted a below-average Total QBR, five more than any other team in the NFL. That includes both of Seattle’s NFC Championship wins during that time.

Since Wilson entered the league, he has a 63.7 Total QBR in the regular season and playoffs, which ranks eighth among 31 qualified quarterbacks. Wilson deserves credit for his above-average QBR during that time, but does that equate to a 42-13 (.764 win percentage) career record?

Based on Wilson’s game-level QBRs in the last three seasons, he has almost 10 more wins than expected. No other player has six more wins than expected during that time.

So how have Wilson and the Seahawks been able to defy the odds? One word: defense.

In the last three seasons, the Seahawks have contributed 4.4 points per game to their net scoring margin on defense, by far the best defensive efficiency in the NFL. Only Alex Smith (2.1) and Andy Dalton (2.1) have had defenses that contributed more than two expected points per game in their starts during that time.

Seattle’s defense has a knack for playing its best when Wilson and the offense are at their worst. Since the start of 2012, Wilson has had 22 games with a QBR below 50, including 15 wins. In those games, Seattle has held its opponents to an average QBR of 34.0 and has had a per-game defensive efficiency of +7.3. In Wilson’s games with an above-average QBR, the Seahawks have allowed a 45.7 average QBR and have had a +2.4 defensive efficiency rating.

http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/po...russell-wilson

[Joe Seahawk]

He's a damn good one too.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Joe Seahawk

He's a damn good one too.

You're just who I'd like to ask this. Objectively, yet as a fan, did you feel that the game winning pass in OT was a spectacular play that only an truly elite QB could complete, or a situationally aware competent response to GB's abysmal decision to go cover zero at that moment?

[Joe Seahawk]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

You're just who I'd like to ask this. Objectively, yet as a fan, did you feel that the game winning pass in OT was a spectacular play that only an truly elite QB could complete, or a situationally aware competent response to GB's abysmal decision to go cover zero at that moment?

The reason they went cover 0 was because they made the fatal decision that since Russell was having his worst game as a pro, they decided to force him to do what he did. You would think they never saw film of him. The answer is B

[Pepe Silvia]

Originally Posted by Joe Seahawk

The reason they went cover 0 was because they made the fatal decision that since Russell was having his worst game as a pro, they decided to force him to do what he did. You would think they never saw film of him. The answer is B

You got a good one. Enjoy your 15 SB's you lucky bastards.

[Hootie]

so we can use QBR to try and pile on Russell Wilson but pointing out that Peyton has a better postseason and regular season QBR than Tom Brady (and it's not really even close) means jack shit, since, you know ... it doesn't steer the narrative people want to believe

Tom Brady QBR in postseason losses since QBR began:

2013 (66) lost to Peyton
2012 (40)
2011 (70)
2010 (8.7)
2009 (4.2)
2007 (54)
2006 (53) lost to Peyton

FURTHER PROOF THAT TOM BRADY IS A CHOKER WHO CAN'T GET IT DONE IN BIG GAMES

(see, you can tell any story you want with stats)

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

so we can use QBR to try and pile on Russell Wilson but pointing out that Peyton has a better postseason and regular season QBR than Tom Brady (and it's not really even close) means jack shit, since, you know ... it doesn't steer the narrative people want to believe

Tom Brady QBR in postseason losses since QBR began:

2013 (66) lost to Peyton
2012 (40)
2011 (70)
2010 (8.7)
2009 (4.2)
2007 (54)
2006 (53) lost to Peyton

FURTHER PROOF THAT TOM BRADY IS A CHOKER WHO CAN'T GET IT DONE IN BIG GAMES

(see, you can tell any story you want with stats)

Seriously, if this was my forum I'd ban a guy for ****ing trolling up mutlipe threads with this same tired as shit. Shut the **** up about Brady and Manning.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

Seriously, if this was my forum I'd ban a guy for ****ing trolling up mutlipe threads with this same tired as shit. Shut the **** up about Brady and Manning.

...no?

[GoChargers]

I see Hootie has no rebuttal to the facts about his mancrush, so he's going to derail this thread into another debate about Brady vs. his other mancrush.

[Hootie]

no point

go read the NFCCG thread and then read the AFCCG thread

this board piled on Russell for 3 quarters and had guys saying he shouldn't get a contract extension and that he was the 8th best player on his own team

and then no one said a damn thing about Andrew in the AFCCG thread and everyone considers Andrew Luck to be as elite as they come

Russell's one playoff loss (6-1) came in a game his defense let him down. He's an amazing NFL QB and a truly elite QB. There is no argument.

[chiefzilla1501]

Would rather have a game manager that consistently closes games than a 4,500 yard QB that doesn't close games. Unfortunately, we have a game manager who doesn't close games.

[Joe Seahawk]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

no point

go read the NFCCG thread and then read the AFCCG thread

this board piled on Russell for 3 quarters and had guys saying he shouldn't get a contract extension and that he was the 8th best player on his own team

and then no one said a damn thing about Andrew in the AFCCG thread and everyone considers Andrew Luck to be as elite as they come

Russell's one playoff loss (6-1) came in a game his defense let him down. He's an amazing NFL QB and a truly elite QB. There is no argument.

Meanwhile after Russels 4th pick wit 4:00 to go he was on the sidelines rallying his teammates like William firkin Wallace.

Love that guy.

[Hammock Parties]

Now that Kearse is emerging he'll probably throw for 4,000 yards next year and this debate will never see the light of day again.

[TribalElder]

I didn't know game managers won superbowls lol

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by TribalElder

I didn't know game managers won superbowls lol

they can't !!!

yet, apparently a "game manager" in Seattle is about to win two in a row.

WEIRD !