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Proof positive that Russell Wilson is a game manager (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=290195)

Proof positive that Russell Wilson is a game manager

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The Seattle Seahawks advanced to the Super Bowl in one of the most improbable comebacks in playoff history. Russell Wilson completed his final five passes, including a game-winning 35-yard touchdown in overtime to Jermaine Kearse.

Before the final five minutes and overtime, however, Wilson was abysmal. He threw a career-high four interceptions and became the second player in the Super Bowl era to win a postseason game with that many picks. Through three quarters, Wilson had a 0.2 Total QBR, and although he increased that number to 13.6 with his late-game heroics, Wilson finished the game with the lowest Total QBR in a postseason win since 2006.

This is not the first time that Seattle has won despite Wilson’s inefficiency. In fact, since 2012, Wilson’s first year in the league, the Seahawks have 15 wins in which their quarterback posted a below-average Total QBR, five more than any other team in the NFL. That includes both of Seattle’s NFC Championship wins during that time.

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Since Wilson entered the league, he has a 63.7 Total QBR in the regular season and playoffs, which ranks eighth among 31 qualified quarterbacks. Wilson deserves credit for his above-average QBR during that time, but does that equate to a 42-13 (.764 win percentage) career record?

Based on Wilson’s game-level QBRs in the last three seasons, he has almost 10 more wins than expected. No other player has six more wins than expected during that time.

So how have Wilson and the Seahawks been able to defy the odds? One word: defense.

In the last three seasons, the Seahawks have contributed 4.4 points per game to their net scoring margin on defense, by far the best defensive efficiency in the NFL. Only Alex Smith (2.1) and Andy Dalton (2.1) have had defenses that contributed more than two expected points per game in their starts during that time.

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Seattle’s defense has a knack for playing its best when Wilson and the offense are at their worst. Since the start of 2012, Wilson has had 22 games with a QBR below 50, including 15 wins. In those games, Seattle has held its opponents to an average QBR of 34.0 and has had a per-game defensive efficiency of +7.3. In Wilson’s games with an above-average QBR, the Seahawks have allowed a 45.7 average QBR and have had a +2.4 defensive efficiency rating.

http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/po...russell-wilson

He's a damn good one too.

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Originally Posted by Joe Seahawk (Post 11292366)

He's a damn good one too.

You're just who I'd like to ask this. Objectively, yet as a fan, did you feel that the game winning pass in OT was a spectacular play that only an truly elite QB could complete, or a situationally aware competent response to GB's abysmal decision to go cover zero at that moment?

so we can use QBR to try and pile on Russell Wilson but pointing out that Peyton has a better postseason and regular season QBR than Tom Brady (and it's not really even close) means jack shit, since, you know ... it doesn't steer the narrative people want to believe

Tom Brady QBR in postseason losses since QBR began:

2013 (66) lost to Peyton
2012 (40)
2011 (70)
2010 (8.7)
2009 (4.2)
2007 (54)
2006 (53) lost to Peyton

FURTHER PROOF THAT TOM BRADY IS A CHOKER WHO CAN'T GET IT DONE IN BIG GAMES

(see, you can tell any story you want with stats)

I see Hootie has no rebuttal to the facts about his mancrush, so he's going to derail this thread into another debate about Brady vs. his other mancrush.

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11292376)

The reason they went cover 0 was because they made the fatal decision that since Russell was having his worst game as a pro, they decided to force him to do what he did. You would think they never saw film of him. The answer is B

no point

go read the NFCCG thread and then read the AFCCG thread

this board piled on Russell for 3 quarters and had guys saying he shouldn't get a contract extension and that he was the 8th best player on his own team

and then no one said a damn thing about Andrew in the AFCCG thread and everyone considers Andrew Luck to be as elite as they come

Russell's one playoff loss (6-1) came in a game his defense let him down. He's an amazing NFL QB and a truly elite QB. There is no argument.

Would rather have a game manager that consistently closes games than a 4,500 yard QB that doesn't close games. Unfortunately, we have a game manager who doesn't close games.

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11292402)

Meanwhile after Russels 4th pick wit 4:00 to go he was on the sidelines rallying his teammates like William firkin Wallace.

Love that guy.

Now that Kearse is emerging he'll probably throw for 4,000 yards next year and this debate will never see the light of day again.

I didn't know game managers won superbowls lol

these same people harp about Tom not having enough weapons and Andrew being a 1 man team and then you look at seattle who feature Doug Baldwin, Jermaine Kearse and Luke Willson in the passing game. And Tony Moeaki.

I liken his lack of stats to an NBA blowout. If your team is up 10 points in the 3rd quarter and you have the best defense in the league ... why on Earth would you put yourself in a position to see Jermaine Kearse drop two balls that hit him in the numbers that turn into costly interceptions?

All Russell Wilson does is win. You referenced the NFC Championship Game from last year and fail to state two things:

1) San Fran had an absolutely elite defense.

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2) Seattle won that game from behind. Seattle won that game because on 4th and 7 Russell got San Fran on a hard count (offsides) and then, knowing he had a free play, made a beautiful throw that gave Kearse the opportunity to make a play and he did and that was that.

This website believes only elite QB's can win Super Bowls. Russell wins one? Nah. He just has Lynch and an elite defense!

This website believes in clutch QB play. Russell constantly performs in the 4th quarter and constantly has won big games. That was the most clutch 4 minutes of football in NFL history last Sunday. He's 6-1 in the playoffs. His 1 loss featured the best half of football (2nd half) I've ever seen a QB play in my life. He led his team to a game winning TD and the Hawks vaunted defense couldn't keep Matt Ryan out of field goal range in 28 seconds. Seriously. His 1 playoff loss was one of the most clutch postseason performances I've ever seen.

But yep.

GoChargers doesn't think Seattle should give him an extension. He thinks they should let him walk. I am not kidding. He said this in the thread last week during the Packers game.

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Originally Posted by Joe Seahawk (Post 11292399)

You got a good one. Enjoy your 15 SB's you lucky bastards.

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 11292425)

I didn't know game managers won superbowls lol

they can't !!!

yet, apparently a "game manager" in Seattle is about to win two in a row.

WEIRD !

Put enough talent around any QB and they have a chance to go to the SB. Case and point: Trent Dilfer and Rex Grossman.

Manning would have went to at least least 3 more SB's with that kinda team.