Chiefs Jeremy Maclin plans to reunite with Andy Reid - Page 51

ShowtimeSBMVP · 03-08-2015, 06:29 PM

The Eagles' wild ride will continue: Jeremy Maclin plans to reunite with Andy Reid in Kansas City once free agent market opens Tuesday.
— Chris Mortensen (@mortreport) March 9, 2015

Sandy Vagina · 03-09-2015, 03:55 PM

Make plans on doing everything possible to improve the OL, or cut/trade Alex by Thursday.

This OL is currently a big pile of shit that few if any QBs can accomplish much behind. Adding Maclin would be wonderful, but still.. everything starts in the trenches.

No OL = no QB = WRs basically useless

**petegz28** · 03-09-2015, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Its makes sense if you realize how Alex's contract is structured.

what doesnt make sense is people constantly bitching about Smith knowing good and damn well he isn't gong anywhere anytime soon

Red Dawg · 03-09-2015, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Everyone has their concerns about Alex Smith but JFC some of you just can't shut the **** up even when we sign a serios playmaker at WR.

Look at this way, if Smith doesn't throw Maclin the ball it will be signing his own ticket out of town so it's a win win. Stop bitching.

Reid is a play design guy. Trick the defense is what he tries to do. Maclin will be really helpul and I am sure he will draw up plays that get him the ball. He can do what Bowe couldn't. We now three burners on the field that can catch and fly down field. DAT, Maclin and JC, and also that short midget they kept over Avery and Jenkins.

jd1020 · 03-09-2015, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

what doesnt make sense is people constantly bitching about Smith knowing good and damn well he isn't gong anywhere anytime soon

Makes perfect sense to me and it only enhances the hatred for that piece of shit.

Sandy Vagina · 03-09-2015, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

Reid is a play design guy. Trick the defense is what he tries to do. Maclin will be really helpul and I am sure he will draw up plays that get him the ball. He can do what Bowe couldn't. We now three burners on the field that can catch and fly down field. DAT, Maclin and JC, and also that short midget they kept over Avery and Jenkins.

Exactly. People bitch about Bowe being open and not getting the ball, but they don't realize that most of those plays were never designed to actually throw to Bowe. He was a diversion. With Maclin, Andy will create more designed plays to get him the ball... because Maclin.. unlike Bowe.. is actually an explosive playmaker. I think Andy recognized what Bowe was.. and while he did keep him involved.. he got away from designing lots of big plays to him.

**petegz28** · 03-09-2015, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Makes perfect sense to me and it only enhances the hatred for that piece of shit.

you might as well pick another team for the next 2 seasons or so

jd1020 · 03-09-2015, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

you might as well pick another team for the next 2 seasons or so

People have been saying that every 2nd season since 1969.

DJ's left nut · 03-09-2015, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry

Radio says first year cap hit is only 5 million?

That 5 year period allows a ton of flexibility and really, it's possible he did us a HUGE favor.

Look at it this way and as simple as possible (no roster bonus stuff): 5 yrs, $55 million. Let's say we gave him a $20 million signing bonus, which would be pretty damn massive. That essentially says that we have $4 million in signing bonus money on the cap every year and leaves us 5 years to cover the remaining $35 million.

So how about 1, 4, 8, 10, 12 as the first five years of the deal? Seems like a relatively reasonable breakdown, no?

So cap hits of $5, 8, 12, 14 and 16 million. If he's healthy, the first 3 years of that are relative bargains, especially given the way the cap is trending. You bail on the last year and eat $4 million in dead money.

He's guaranteed $33 million in the first 3 years of his deal (good for him) and if he's been productive in year 4, $14 million won't be prohibitive.

I believe he could've done substantially better than this on the market, especially in light of the actual cash spending mandated for a handful of teams in the league.

beer bacon · 03-09-2015, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi

Petro throwing cold water on this deal. He's not as pessimistic as I am but $11 million a year is a huge risk just like I've been saying.

We should do the safe thing and trade a couple 2nd rounders for Colin Kaepernick and draft a lineman in the first round.

**petegz28** · 03-09-2015, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

People have been saying that every 2nd season since 1969.

you should probably listen to them

jd1020 · 03-09-2015, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

you should probably listen to them

Someday I just might.

I think if the Cubs win a WS before the Chiefs win a SB, I probably will. Probably just move onto the Bears or something a little closer to home.

O.city · 03-09-2015, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

That 5 year period allows a ton of flexibility and really, it's possible he did us a HUGE favor.

Look at it this way and as simple as possible (no roster bonus stuff): 5 yrs, $55 million. Let's say we gave him a $20 million signing bonus, which would be pretty damn massive. That essentially says that we have $4 million in signing bonus money on the cap every year and leaves us 5 years to cover the remaining $35 million.

So how about 1, 4, 8, 10, 12 as the first five years of the deal? Seems like a relatively reasonable breakdown, no?

So cap hits of $5, 8, 12, 14 and 16 million. If he's healthy, the first 3 years of that are relative bargains, especially given the way the cap is trending. You bail on the last year and eat $4 million in dead money.

He's guaranteed $33 million in the first 3 years of his deal (good for him) and if he's been productive in year 4, $14 million won't be prohibitive.

I believe he could've done substantially better than this on the market, especially in light of the actual cash spending mandated for a handful of teams in the league.

You didn't seem to be for this in draft planet a few days ago. I'm glad you've changed your tune though

DJ's left nut · 03-09-2015, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Its makes sense if you realize how Alex's contract is structured.

Not really.

He'll get 2 years but he has no guaranteed money left in 2017. He also has a $2 million roster bonus due in '17.

So if he can't rise to the occasion in '17 they cut him (post June 1). $3.6 hits the cap in '17 with another $3.6 in '18. They free up just a bit north of $13 million and walk away.

You being reactionary doesn't mean everyone else is just being ignorant. There's a pretty obvious out in the contract after 2016. Smith will have 2 seasons to prove he's worth the next 2 on his deal and the Chiefs have taken the first step towards ensuring there are no more questions to answer by then.

jd1020 · 03-09-2015, 04:09 PM

I think he's cut in 2017 no matter what. Unless he brings a SB to KC in the next 2 years.

He's locked into guaranteed money for the next 2 years. So like I said, whether he makes it happen with Maclin or not it likely wont have an effect on how long he is in KC.

Brock · 03-09-2015, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Make plans on doing everything possible to improve the OL, or cut/trade Alex by Thursday.

This OL is currently a big pile of shit that few if any QBs can accomplish much behind. Adding Maclin would be wonderful, but still.. everything starts in the trenches.

No OL = no QB = WRs basically useless

For anyone who thinks the alexcuses have ended.

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jd1020 In Search of a Life Join Date: Nov 2010 Casino cash: $7712645	I think he's cut in 2017 no matter what. Unless he brings a SB to KC in the next 2 years. He's locked into guaranteed money for the next 2 years. So like I said, whether he makes it happen with Maclin or not it likely wont have an effect on how long he is in KC.
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