Chiefs Daniel Sorenson - Page 9

Hog's Gone Fishin · 08-30-2014, 08:45 AM

I just hope the kid makes the roster. He's flashed some good stuff,seems to be around the ball a lot and well , he's 6'2" 208 and pretty fast for his size.

Talk has it Tyler Bray may go to IR. What's up with that ? I would rather just cut Murray and move on.

Sandy Vagina · 08-31-2014, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by thabear04

Or

Sorensen = Jon McGraw

Or

Sorensen will become the next John Lynch?

OldSchool · 08-31-2014, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Or

Sorensen will become the next John Lynch?

Um, no, Lynch was actually a hard hitter and had great instincts. Sorensen's "hits" wouldn't harm a fly.

milkman · 08-31-2014, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Oh really?

Since you apparently have no conceptualization of what the word "hypocritical" actually means and how it's applied to an individual, that kind of makes you a hypocrite, doesn't it dumbass?

Keep spinning dipshit.

First, you, me, and everyone else, knows, from the hierarchy outlined by Hunt that all roster decisions, including the draft and these roster cuts are a staff effort which incudes both Dorsey and Reid, and that the actual final decisions lie with Dorsey.

But even if that were not true, you critizing Dorsey's talent evaluation, a man that has years in personnel, then critisizing others for what you try to sell as Reid's decisions, is hypocritical.

Everyone knows it.

None of us have the qualifications that either have.

chiefzilla1501 · 08-31-2014, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

Um, no, Lynch was actually a hard hitter and had great instincts. Sorensen's "hits" wouldn't harm a fly.

I haven't seen a single scouting report that says that Sorensen is a soft hitter or even a poor tackler. I've seen most scouting reports specifically say he's a hard hitter and a sure tackler. That's based on live snaps over many, many games on the collegiate level in games that actually count.

Again, you are so obsessed with the preseason being some kind of predictor of what he is. If I'm worried about Sorensen, it's that he doesn't have elite speed or fluid hips. It's that he's relying on football smarts and seems to have some development to do there. Because that's a continuation of weaknesses we saw on the scouting report. Using a few preseason games to assume the guy is terrible at things he did very well in college? Let's not over-generalize.

t's a good thing we rely a lot more on the bigger picture to make these decisions than judging how a rookie reacts to being thrown into the fire right away. Knile Davis, Kelce, and Cooper were terrible this time last year.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-31-2014, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam

Chiefzilla = Sorenson?

If Sorenson is Todd haleys brother then yeah

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 08-31-2014, 12:50 PM

Sorensen sucks. He gets swallowed up in his pathetic attempts at run support

chiefzilla1501 · 08-31-2014, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

If Sorenson is Todd haleys brother then yeah

And this is the comedy of CP.

I have never endorsed Sorensen. I said it's way too soon to know what he is.

I never endorsed Haley. I said he did some good things, some bad things, and got a raw deal (and that was proven to be the case on an extraordinary level).

But of course, the people who seem to be the most right are the ones who say Haley is 100% terrible and Sorensen is 100% dogshit because of a few preseason games.

I don't think Sorensen is anything special. But I also highly doubt he's nearly as bad as he played this preseason. I'm sorry if that really tiny endorsement is confused for ball sucking on Polarization Planet

**RealSNR** · 08-31-2014, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Apparently you have.

I've already sent Dorsey an email telling him that OldSchool and SNR think Sorensen isn't very good and Malcolm Bronson should be resigned and that he should fire Reid for being a piss poor evaluator of talent because these two ****ing guys really have an eye for NFL talent and should replace Reid and his coaching staff because those guys don't know shit compared to them.

Done.

In the books.

You're doing that thing again where you act like a giant diva.

Stop it.

**RealSNR** · 08-31-2014, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

You are making it virtually impossible for any rookie past the 3rd round to ever make this team. Hell, past the 2nd round. It's not like we're passing up surefire NFL talent. Bronson was a bubble roster player. Who knows if he even gets scooped up -- he will probably end up on our practice squad.

But yeah, when talking about rookies, let's worry about what they can contribute RIGHT NOW.

We won't really know whether Sorensen will be greater than Bronson until the end of the season. Right now, Sorensen has to only be better than a bubble roster player by this time next season. I don't think it's that far out of reach to think he can do that.

So why does Sorensen get a pass as "he could be good one day!" while a guy like Vince Agnew didn't get that chance last year?

Both guys sucked ass their first time through preseason games. One gets a shot to improve, and the other just goes away. What makes Sorensen different from Vince Agnew?

And no, I'm not saying Vince Agnew should have been given a longterm shot to prove himself on the team. I'm saying that you HAVE to make that determination all the damn time if a rookie sucks or not.

L.A. Chieffan · 08-31-2014, 04:42 PM

Never trust white DBs

OldSchool · 08-31-2014, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I haven't seen a single scouting report that says that Sorensen is a soft hitter or even a poor tackler. I've seen most scouting reports specifically say he's a hard hitter and a sure tackler. That's based on live snaps over many, many games on the collegiate level in games that actually count.

Again, you are so obsessed with the preseason being some kind of predictor of what he is. If I'm worried about Sorensen, it's that he doesn't have elite speed or fluid hips. It's that he's relying on football smarts and seems to have some development to do there. Because that's a continuation of weaknesses we saw on the scouting report. Using a few preseason games to assume the guy is terrible at things he did very well in college? Let's not over-generalize.

t's a good thing we rely a lot more on the bigger picture to make these decisions than judging how a rookie reacts to being thrown into the fire right away. Knile Davis, Kelce, and Cooper were terrible this time last year.

You'd rather judge him on what he did vs college level talent vs what he has done vs NFL level talent? Sure, go ahead and be my guest, lol.

**Rausch** · 08-31-2014, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

So that means we have to wait an entire season until we get to declare that Sorensen sucks?

He sucks RIGHT NOW. Why can't we just make the evaluation and be done?

Because only NFL GM's and Coaches can say a player sucks. You aren't qualified, even if it's obvious...

**RealSNR** · 08-31-2014, 04:58 PM

Does Sorensen have assdiculous raw physical talent that just needs time and consistent coaching? No. Not at all.

Has Sorensen just not had that much time in college to really learn the game of football? No.

Did Sorensen come from a small FCS or Division II program and need more time than other rookies to overcome the huge jump to the NFL? No.

Is Sorensen's energy level and desire to be truly great any more exceptional than other rookies? Not really.

Does Sorensen have ANY unique qualities to his game that will ever make him anything more than JAG? No.

AND FINALLY... THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION OF ALL:

Does he suck right now? Yes.

That's Strike 6. He's out.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 08-31-2014, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Does Sorensen have assdiculous raw physical talent that just needs time and consistent coaching? No. Not at all.

Has Sorensen just not had that much time in college to really learn the game of football? No.

Did Sorensen come from a small FCS or Division II program and need more time than other rookies to overcome the huge jump to the NFL? No.

Is Sorensen's energy level and desire to be truly great any more exceptional than other rookies? Not really.

Does Sorensen have ANY unique qualities to his game that will ever make him anything more than JAG? No.

AND FINALLY... THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION OF ALL:

Does he suck right now? Yes.

That's Strike 6. He's out.

Are you smarter than Reid / Dorsey ? NO

aturnis · 08-31-2014, 08:31 PM

He's just so bad Saccopoo! How many TD's did he give up again?

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