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Old 02-24-2013, 04:07 PM   #1
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Preface this by saying I'm high on Geno than you are. But with that, I don't think you are quit playing positional value into your rankings here.

And frankly, I'm tired of playing it the way we have. I'd rather take a chance on a QB who might have more risk attached than a DL who has less.
In my OP, I totally ignored positional value. So there's that.

I think people are getting too much of a confirmation bias with Geno. A bunch of folks watch his highlights but ignore the score of lowlights he has up. For every brilliant game, there's games where the offense collapses. For every great throw, there's a pass that falls five yards out of bounds.

I really like Geno and like everybody else, I'm starved for a QB and I want us to draft one.

But this fanbase is getting its hopes up waaaaay too high on this guy.
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:10 PM   #2
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In my OP, I totally ignored positional value. So there's that.

I think people are getting too much of a confirmation bias with Geno. A bunch of folks watch his highlights but ignore the score of lowlights he has up. For every brilliant game, there's games where the offense collapses. For every great throw, there's a pass that falls five yards out of bounds.

I really like Geno and like everybody else, I'm starved for a QB and I want us to draft one.

But this fanbase is getting its hopes up waaaaay too high on this guy.
Oh he's in no means a perfect prospect. The rhetoric on him around here is a bit much at times, but I really don't mind it. This franchise has shit on us overa nd over in terms of QB play, so I get it.

But I think last years class has hurt him, his system has hurt him, and things he's actually had control on have hurt him.

I may be putting way too much into todays numbers, but I am actually a bit blown away by his combine numbers and I'm starting to think he wasn't used very well at WVU.
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And Moore just did 13 reps on bench at the combine. Thats probably not working out well for him.
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:08 PM   #4
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I think teams hating Jones has more to do with his spinal issue than his game film.
That's exactly why, apparently.

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And Moore just did 13 reps on bench at the combine. Thats probably not working out well for him.
Yup. But give him a full season in NFL strength and conditioning.
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:13 PM   #5
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Yup. But give him a full season in NFL strength and conditioning.
Some info is coming out on him soon that you might not like. Secondroundstats is working on it. Will probably be posted tonight actually.
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:15 PM   #6
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Some info is coming out on him soon that you might not like. Secondroundstats is working on it. Will probably be posted tonight actually.
Hmmm.
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Hmmm.
http://secondroundstats.com/2013/02/...s-rushers-pt1/
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:10 PM   #8
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The fact is : QB is our weakest position. Geno would be an upgrade, as well as about 5 other rookie QBs. I still think Dorsey goes after the best talent ,surest pick at #1 if that's where we stay but IMO the logical choice is to trade down with Arizona / Buffalo and take Fisher and then come back and get Wilson or Manuel at 34. I do have a hardon for tavon Austin especially after today but he's not a big need other than giving us a punt returner.
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Geno Smith is the player in this draft that will have the greatest impact on his team.

He's the clear choice and anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves.
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:31 PM   #10
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Geno Smith is the player in this draft that will have the greatest impact on his team.

He's the clear choice and anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves.
We had two teams in the Super Bowl going at it with good QBs, not great QBs. But they both had Top 3 defenses.

A QB offers you the most direct path to the Super Bowl, but it's not the only one. If there was a guy we could acquire along this DL that could transform our defensive front into an All League front, then that can be worth an investment.
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We had two teams in the Super Bowl going at it with good QBs, not great QBs. But they both had Top 3 defenses.

A QB offers you the most direct path to the Super Bowl, but it's not the only one. If there was a guy we could acquire along this DL that could transform our defensive front into an All League front, then that can be worth an investment.
Actually, IIRC, the Ravens defense wasn't near as good this year. Granted they had some injuries.


And I've been polite to others and I know you can take it, but **** the ****ing defensive line. **** it with a ****ing dildo **** stick.

I'll take a guy like Margus Hunt and see what happens.
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Actually, IIRC, the Ravens defense wasn't near as good this year. Granted they had some injuries.

And I've been polite to others and I know you can take it, but **** the ****ing defensive line. **** it with a ****ing dildo **** stick.

I'll take a guy like Margus Hunt and see what happens.


I love Margus Hunt, first of all. I want him with our 2nd rounder. LOVE him.

But you're telling me you wouldn't take a Canty-Poe-Richardson DL? With Tyson Jackson and Jerrell Powe rotating in?

God, I'd sure ****ing take that.
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I love Margus Hunt, first of all. I want him with our 2nd rounder. LOVE him.

But you're telling me you wouldn't take a Canty-Poe-Richardson DL? With Tyson Jackson and Jerrell Powe rotating in?

God, I'd sure ****ing take that.
I'd take it, but I'd also take a Canty-Poe- Bid dick Seymour for a year or two over drafting Richardson.

Dude is an absolute headcase and if we've learned anything based on the Chiefs history, DL with red flags scare the shit out of me.
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I love Margus Hunt, first of all. I want him with our 2nd rounder. LOVE him.

But you're telling me you wouldn't take a Canty-Poe-Richardson DL? With Tyson Jackson and Jerrell Powe rotating in?

God, I'd sure ****ing take that.
With Alex Smith at QB?

**** no I wouldn't take that. That's ****ing stupid.
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We had two teams in the Super Bowl going at it with good QBs, not great QBs. But they both had Top 3 defenses.

A QB offers you the most direct path to the Super Bowl, but it's not the only one. If there was a guy we could acquire along this DL that could transform our defensive front into an All League front, then that can be worth an investment.
Yep, you obviously know nothing about QBs.
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