Trade up and draft Marcus Mariota! - Page 2

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-12-2014, 09:53 PM

We're not going to pull it after signing the flat tire, so let's see what the next couple of drafts can offer.

kccrow · 12-12-2014, 10:22 PM

2016 draft could have a few names at the top at QB with guys like Hundley (if he can progress over whatever happened this season), Cook, and Hogan (if he keeps progressing).

Edit: And wtf happened to Hackenberg this year... holy shit... He looked like a sure fire 1st overall in the making last year and then... woah.

Nightfyre · 12-13-2014, 02:22 PM

We could trade or cut Alex Smith and actually save on the salary cap so long as it happens prior to the 3rd day of the league year.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-13-2014, 02:50 PM

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We could trade or cut Alex Smith and actually save on the salary cap so long as it happens prior to the 3rd day of the league year.

Yeah right. They missed the boat when they didn't let him play out his contract.

Goddamn, this is the dumbest franchise on wheels.

hitchief · 12-22-2014, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

We could trade or cut Alex Smith and actually save on the salary cap so long as it happens prior to the 3rd day of the league year.

why even go there. you know dam well that Alex is the guy Andy wants so stop crying and bitching and figure out how to make the team better around the dude.

you think a rookie qb is gonna do shit with this oline and wr group. He would be ruined after 2 years of that garbage and you'd be back to bitching and moaning again for a new qb.

How about fixing the oline and adding a true #1 wr this offseason. If Alex doesn't get us to the playoffs, then get rid of him and bring in a rookie but at that point you'd at least give the guy a chance to succeed.

Nightfyre · 12-22-2014, 10:24 AM

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why even go there. you know dam well that Alex is the guy Andy wants so stop crying and bitching and figure out how to make the team better around the dude.

you think a rookie qb is gonna do shit with this oline and wr group. He would be ruined after 2 years of that garbage and you'd be back to bitching and moaning again for a new qb.

How about fixing the oline and adding a true #1 wr this offseason. If Alex doesn't get us to the playoffs, then get rid of him and bring in a rookie but at that point you'd at least give the guy a chance to succeed.

- First of all, I am not sure how the cited post is "crying and bitching." Second, are you insinuating that Alex Smith hasn't had the chance to succeed?

he's been a starter for how many seasons now on how many super talented teams? Alex is clearly the guy Andy Reid wants. Dorsey should still pull the plug on this experiment while we have time to get out of the deal with our hide intact.

And yes, I think a capable rookie could do more with this offense than Alex Smith. The O-line could use strengthening, but the WR position is difficult to evaluate with a QB who won't actually give a WR a chance to make a play or throw his receivers open.

hitchief · 12-22-2014, 01:20 PM

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- First of all, I am not sure how the cited post is "crying and bitching." Second, are you insinuating that Alex Smith hasn't had the chance to succeed?

he's been a starter for how many seasons now on how many super talented teams? Alex is clearly the guy Andy Reid wants. Dorsey should still pull the plug on this experiment while we have time to get out of the deal with our hide intact.

And yes, I think a capable rookie could do more with this offense than Alex Smith. The O-line could use strengthening, but the WR position is difficult to evaluate with a QB who won't actually give a WR a chance to make a play or throw his receivers open.

The oline could use strengthening? Are you serious? They are the worst in the NFL. You cant be serious in thinking a rookie could learn Andy's WCO and play behind that oline and with that group of wr's and come out with a better record or Vegas has its best customer ever!

What did the FO do in the offseason to help Alex and the O? Name the players that you think were the big time improvements? How about the move to get rid of your 3 best oline players and not do anything to repace them. That single move alone condemned this O to failure this season. How is that giving Alex a chance to succeed? No other team fails to surround the starting qb with less. Brilliant

**the Talking Can** · 12-22-2014, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by hitchief

The oline could use strengthening? Are you serious? They are the worst in the NFL. You cant be serious in thinking a rookie could learn Andy's WCO and play behind that oline and with that group of wr's and come out with a better record or Vegas has its best customer ever!

What did the FO do in the offseason to help Alex and the O? Name the players that you think were the big time improvements? How about the move to get rid of your 3 best oline players and not do anything to repace them. That single move alone condemned this O to failure this season. How is that giving Alex a chance to succeed? No other team fails to surround the starting qb with less. Brilliant

go blow smith somewhere else

Nightfyre · 12-22-2014, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by hitchief

The oline could use strengthening? Are you serious? They are the worst in the NFL. You cant be serious in thinking a rookie could learn Andy's WCO and play behind that oline and with that group of wr's and come out with a better record or Vegas has its best customer ever!

What did the FO do in the offseason to help Alex and the O? Name the players that you think were the big time improvements? How about the move to get rid of your 3 best oline players and not do anything to repace them. That single move alone condemned this O to failure this season. How is that giving Alex a chance to succeed? No other team fails to surround the starting qb with less. Brilliant

Derek Carr is arguably doing as much with less in Oakland. Bridgewater is doing as much with as much in Minnesota.

Molitoth · 12-13-2014, 02:59 PM

I wish.

Nightfyre · 12-16-2014, 06:18 PM

Why don't you guys get on this bandwagon? This kid is the real deal

oaklandhater · 12-22-2014, 10:31 PM

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Why don't you guys get on this bandwagon? This kid is the real deal

We might not even have to trade up if he fall's to where we pick in draft I doubt the chiefs would grab him.

Nightfyre · 12-16-2014, 07:56 PM

Damn near every college offense is spread now. Hell, damn near every NFL offense is spread.
The dude makes NFL throws and NFL reads. He works progressions and looks off safeties. He can make all the throws and appears to be a humble, down-to-earth, lead by example type. He has dominated the PAC 12. I don't know what he is missing in your eyes. Other than he happens to be a mobile QB in a spread offense.

O.city · 12-16-2014, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Damn near every college offense is spread now. Hell, damn near every NFL offense is spread.
The dude makes NFL throws and NFL reads. He works progressions and looks off safeties. He can make all the throws and appears to be a humble, down-to-earth, lead by example type. He has dominated the PAC 12. I don't know what he is missing in your eyes. Other than he happens to be a mobile QB in a spread offense.

Not so much in that offense. He isn't asked to make nfl reads yet

Nightfyre · 12-16-2014, 08:01 PM

Do you know how long I have draftabulated?

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12-16-2014, 07:56 PM	#13
Nightfyre MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Helena, MT Casino cash: $3528849	Damn near every college offense is spread now. Hell, damn near every NFL offense is spread. The dude makes NFL throws and NFL reads. He works progressions and looks off safeties. He can make all the throws and appears to be a humble, down-to-earth, lead by example type. He has dominated the PAC 12. I don't know what he is missing in your eyes. Other than he happens to be a mobile QB in a spread offense.
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